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Seems a bit in the clouds. The poster knowingly took ownership of stolen property and got a warning over it. Stopping after you're caught doesn't right your wro

Seems a bit in the clouds. The poster knowingly took ownership of stolen property and got a warning over it. Stopping after you're caught doesn't right your wrong.

ergothus 7y ago
> Stopping after you're caught doesn't right your wrong. Nope! I still remain happy to see that something gets stopped without legal action, and seeing a company that didn't go for the throat succeeding in their defense. Just because a wrong isn't righted doesn't mean we can't be happy the situation didn't get worse.
- __jal 7y ago
  A refreshing view. So many people seem to emotionally need some sort of social vindication of their injury, or in some other way feel dissatisfied if there isn't third-party shaming/punishment/etc. involved in conflict resolution. Sometimes, the best approach is "Yo, can you cut that out?"
- rustguy 7y ago
  Somehow I think if the poster conspired to steal your own cell phone, you'd feel differently. What about a shoplifter at Target? You're implying that companies prosecuting theft are somehow morally inferior to RIM.
  - pixelbash 7y ago
    Bit of a straw man isn't that? Your one single cell phone is a bit different from one of hundreds of prototypes not owned by anyone in particular or even intended for sale.
    - de_watcher 7y ago
      I would be mad at someone stealing prototypes I use for development.
  - ergothus 7y ago
    > Somehow I think if the poster conspired to steal your own cell phone, you'd feel differently I'm not sure I would, depending on what you mean. Would I be more upset about someone conspiring to harm an individual as opposed to taking investigative actions that MIGHT harm a company by spreading information? Yes. Would I feel that someone stopping their conspiracy to steal my phone when I caught them and called them out wasn't enough? Probably not. There was bad, it was stopped, that's still a good ending. Would I be nervous that whoever was so conspiring wouldn't just stop when asked? Yes, admittedly. But that doesn't mean that harsher punishments actually fix that.

Seems a bit in the clouds. The poster knowingly took ownership of stolen property and got a warning over it. Stopping after you're caught doesn't right your wrong.

ergothus 7y ago

> Stopping after you're caught doesn't right your wrong. Nope! I still remain happy to see that something gets stopped without legal action, and seeing a company that didn't go for the throat succeeding in their defense. Just because a wrong isn't righted doesn't mean we can't be happy the situation didn't get worse.

__jal 7y ago
A refreshing view. So many people seem to emotionally need some sort of social vindication of their injury, or in some other way feel dissatisfied if there isn't third-party shaming/punishment/etc. involved in conflict resolution. Sometimes, the best approach is "Yo, can you cut that out?"
rustguy 7y ago
Somehow I think if the poster conspired to steal your own cell phone, you'd feel differently. What about a shoplifter at Target? You're implying that companies prosecuting theft are somehow morally inferior to RIM.
- pixelbash 7y ago
  Bit of a straw man isn't that? Your one single cell phone is a bit different from one of hundreds of prototypes not owned by anyone in particular or even intended for sale.
  - de_watcher 7y ago
    I would be mad at someone stealing prototypes I use for development.
- ergothus 7y ago
  > Somehow I think if the poster conspired to steal your own cell phone, you'd feel differently I'm not sure I would, depending on what you mean. Would I be more upset about someone conspiring to harm an individual as opposed to taking investigative actions that MIGHT harm a company by spreading information? Yes. Would I feel that someone stopping their conspiracy to steal my phone when I caught them and called them out wasn't enough? Probably not. There was bad, it was stopped, that's still a good ending. Would I be nervous that whoever was so conspiring wouldn't just stop when asked? Yes, admittedly. But that doesn't mean that harsher punishments actually fix that.