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It's a very appropriate article these days. How many of us donated to Wikileaks? How many will even go public (on Facebook) as supporting Wikileaks?

hazzen 16y ago
Careful there; you've gone from a fact about yourself to a generalization of everyone in a group. Down that road lies fallacy.
- grandalf 16y ago
  I realize not all HN readers support Wikileaks. I used it as an example b/c it is one of the few controversial entities left to support (or not). Pretty much everyone opposes slavery, hunger, etc.
itistoday 16y ago
I do, I'm sure there are many who do. You shouldn't be ashamed of standing up for truth (unless, of course, you feel that doing so is causing more harm than good, and there's the rub, but I feel Wikileaks is on the whole a force for good, and the world is better off with it than without). Just as an example of someone of prestige and integrity, standing up for Wikileaks and kicking ass while doing so (on national television), is Ray McGovern, "former high-ranking CIA official": http://www.juancole.com/2010/12/former-cia-official-ray-close-defends-assange.html http://www.juancole.com/2010/12/former-cia-official-ray-clos...
- babeKnuth 16y ago
  if you haven't seen it, the gentleman from texas also makes some lovely comments as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxPB9yy7IJ4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxPB9yy7IJ4
jbooth 16y ago
The way the wikileaks thing went down made me want to grow dreadlocks and become a marxist. This guy comes out and contributes to what the press should have been doing the last 10 years, and what happens? The cable news networks spend all their time talking about his "motivations" and how "anti-american" he is or isn't. Or who on the washington circuit is saying he's anti-american and how that fits into the political gossip column. What about the damned cables!?

hazzen 16y ago

Careful there; you've gone from a fact about yourself to a generalization of everyone in a group. Down that road lies fallacy.

grandalf 16y ago
I realize not all HN readers support Wikileaks. I used it as an example b/c it is one of the few controversial entities left to support (or not). Pretty much everyone opposes slavery, hunger, etc.

itistoday 16y ago

I do, I'm sure there are many who do. You shouldn't be ashamed of standing up for truth (unless, of course, you feel that doing so is causing more harm than good, and there's the rub, but I feel Wikileaks is on the whole a force for good, and the world is better off with it than without). Just as an example of someone of prestige and integrity, standing up for Wikileaks and kicking ass while doing so (on national television), is Ray McGovern, "former high-ranking CIA official": http://www.juancole.com/2010/12/former-cia-official-ray-close-defends-assange.html http://www.juancole.com/2010/12/former-cia-official-ray-clos...

babeKnuth 16y ago
if you haven't seen it, the gentleman from texas also makes some lovely comments as well: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxPB9yy7IJ4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxPB9yy7IJ4

jbooth 16y ago

The way the wikileaks thing went down made me want to grow dreadlocks and become a marxist. This guy comes out and contributes to what the press should have been doing the last 10 years, and what happens? The cable news networks spend all their time talking about his "motivations" and how "anti-american" he is or isn't. Or who on the washington circuit is saying he's anti-american and how that fits into the political gossip column. What about the damned cables!?