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I suppose you and I have very different definitions of racism, but I'm not seeing it in anything you've provided. Countries of origin and religion are not race.

I suppose you and I have very different definitions of racism, but I'm not seeing it in anything you've provided. Countries of origin and religion are not race. And, to me, racism is harmful actions or words motivated by a hatred of or a belief in the superiority over a race by a member of another race.

hobs 7y ago
Here's a direct quote (from my link) - what would you say this indicates besides racism by your definition? “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”
- grayed-down 7y ago
  Looks like hearsay to me, but if he made that remark, it was a stupid thing to say. While there is no wider context, the remark itself still doesn't indicate that he hates black people.
dragonwriter 7y ago
> Countries of origin and religion are not race. “Racism” encompasses bigotry by ethnicity (which encompasses national origin), not merely that based on the 3 classical races (Negroid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid.) In fact, “race”, as commonly used, encompasses ethnic identity groups that are not classical races, too. Plus there are plenty of examples of Trump being racist in the narrow classical sense, but if your best defense against the charge of racism is that he’s really just a bigot in a number of dimensions that aren't technically “racial”, well, that says quite a lot on its own.
- grayed-down 7y ago
  Don't worry, I've seen plenty of bigoted and racially insensitive comments made by Trump's predecessor.

hobs 7y ago

Here's a direct quote (from my link) - what would you say this indicates besides racism by your definition? “Black guys counting my money! I hate it. The only kind of people I want counting my money are short guys that wear yarmulkes every day. … I think that the guy is lazy. And it’s probably not his fault, because laziness is a trait in blacks. It really is, I believe that. It’s not anything they can control.” Trump at first denied the remarks, but later said in a 1997 Playboy interview that “the stuff O’Donnell wrote about me is probably true.”

grayed-down 7y ago
Looks like hearsay to me, but if he made that remark, it was a stupid thing to say. While there is no wider context, the remark itself still doesn't indicate that he hates black people.

dragonwriter 7y ago

> Countries of origin and religion are not race. “Racism” encompasses bigotry by ethnicity (which encompasses national origin), not merely that based on the 3 classical races (Negroid, Caucasoid, Mongoloid.) In fact, “race”, as commonly used, encompasses ethnic identity groups that are not classical races, too. Plus there are plenty of examples of Trump being racist in the narrow classical sense, but if your best defense against the charge of racism is that he’s really just a bigot in a number of dimensions that aren't technically “racial”, well, that says quite a lot on its own.

grayed-down 7y ago
Don't worry, I've seen plenty of bigoted and racially insensitive comments made by Trump's predecessor.