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I am not saying I'm entitled to it (although I think it should be available for an investor upon request), I'm saying the widespread refusal to share the eviden

I am not saying I'm entitled to it (although I think it should be available for an investor upon request), I'm saying the widespread refusal to share the evidence is a yellow flag that something is wrong.

mehrdadn 7y ago
I mean, it's possible, but I'm trying to say that I would expect every such request to be refused to a regular employee regardless of whether something is wrong or not.
- MegaButts 7y ago
  That doesn't explain the scenario where the company is shut down or I'm an investor. My question to you is: why would you ever trust a claim without evidence (especially when the people making that claim stand to personally profit from it)?
  - mehrdadn 7y ago
    The investor case -- I mean, it depends on how much of an investor you were, and what the relevant rules are. But if anybody could become an investor in the company, then it's obviously not a real barrier... giving it to every investor would be like giving it to everyone, which they obviously wouldn't want to do. The shut-down case: well, maybe you feel they don't have a reason not to tell you internal info for a dead company, but the general hesitation would still be there, and I don't see what they would gain from it either. Hardly seems like evidence for hiding information. > My question to you is: why would you ever trust a claim without evidence (especially when the people making that claim stand to personally profit from it)? "Ever"? I mean, it's a case-by-case thing. I might do it if the evidence isn't available to me, and the opposite might imply believing there's a large-scale conspiracy to lie. Or I might not. The lack of someone telling an outsider internal information is not really strong evidence either way.
    - MegaButts 7y ago
      I think everything you're saying is reasonable, but I think we just have to agree to disagree since there is no evidence either way.

mehrdadn 7y ago

I mean, it's possible, but I'm trying to say that I would expect every such request to be refused to a regular employee regardless of whether something is wrong or not.

MegaButts 7y ago
That doesn't explain the scenario where the company is shut down or I'm an investor. My question to you is: why would you ever trust a claim without evidence (especially when the people making that claim stand to personally profit from it)?
- mehrdadn 7y ago
  The investor case -- I mean, it depends on how much of an investor you were, and what the relevant rules are. But if anybody could become an investor in the company, then it's obviously not a real barrier... giving it to every investor would be like giving it to everyone, which they obviously wouldn't want to do. The shut-down case: well, maybe you feel they don't have a reason not to tell you internal info for a dead company, but the general hesitation would still be there, and I don't see what they would gain from it either. Hardly seems like evidence for hiding information. > My question to you is: why would you ever trust a claim without evidence (especially when the people making that claim stand to personally profit from it)? "Ever"? I mean, it's a case-by-case thing. I might do it if the evidence isn't available to me, and the opposite might imply believing there's a large-scale conspiracy to lie. Or I might not. The lack of someone telling an outsider internal information is not really strong evidence either way.
  - MegaButts 7y ago
    I think everything you're saying is reasonable, but I think we just have to agree to disagree since there is no evidence either way.