> I moved from Reddit to HN because commentators here seemed more self-aware. As someone who has participated in discussion forums of one type or another since

> I moved from Reddit to HN because commentators here seemed more self-aware. As someone who has participated in discussion forums of one type or another since the 1980s on dialup BBSs - let's just say it always devolves into a mess, and you'll never find real satisfaction, no matter how many times or where you jump to. Rather than try to find the perfect forum or discussion, enjoy it for what it is, and take an anthropological view of things at times, especially when it gets heated or crazy. If you can detach yourself from the discussion in an objective manner, things can become more enlightening and entertaining at times. Even so - sometimes all you can do is shake your head, close the thread, and go get yourself a stiff drink.