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>Free alcohol is available even in economy on every US carrier I’ve been on. Citation needed. >>such as the handtowel or socks or free alcohol. >Towels, socks

by magduf 7y ago

>Free alcohol is available even in economy on every US carrier I’ve been on. Citation needed. >>such as the handtowel or socks or free alcohol. >Towels, socks, free alcohol are all basics on US carriers that you always get in business or first. No, I'm not talking about towels, I'm talking about a handtowel. It doesn't exist on US planes, because it's an Asian custom. It's a hot, wet towel that they hand out to everyone before every meal so you can wipe your hands. It's called an oshibori in Japanese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshibori https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshibori https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/22372/in-asian-restaurants-and-airlines-is-it-correct-etiquette-to-use-the-hot-towel-o https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/22372/in-asian-re...

chrisseaton 7y ago
> Citation needed. https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/economy/default.aspx https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/eco... "Complimentary house beer and wines, soft drinks, juices, tea and freshly brewed illy coffee" That's in economy. > It doesn't exist on US planes, because it's an Asian custom. It's a hot, wet towel that they hand out to everyone before every meal so you can wipe your hands. Yes, hot wet towels. You get them before meals on US carriers as well. Here's a video of them being handed out in economy on a domestic US flight. https://youtu.be/KzUyCxFLQP8?t=85 https://youtu.be/KzUyCxFLQP8?t=85 Believe me now?
- magduf 7y ago
  No, I don't. Why are you lying to me? I looked at your own link for United, and this is what I found: "Beer, wine and spirits available for purchase on all flights" Again, why are you lying to me? It's right there in your own link. Your quote is only for international flights, where of course they're trying to compete with the other international carriers so they change the rules. I'm not talking only about international flights, I'm talking about domestic vs. international carriers, and domestic carriers, on domestic flights, do NOT offer free alcoholic drinks. Of course, I can't compare non-American carriers for domestic flights because American carriers have a government-granted cartel on domestic flights, but I can still compare domestic vs. international carriers' economy services. >Yes, hot wet towels. You get them before meals on US carriers as well That's total bullshit. I've flown domestically countless times, over decades, and have never seen this before. Just look at the comments in the video: this is not normal service, and people are commenting this way because they've never seen it either. Why are you trying so hard to defend American carriers anyway? Do you work for one of them?
  - chrisseaton 7y ago
    You're moving the goal posts. Why are you now saying you're only talking about domestic? You didn't say that before. > Why are you trying so hard to defend American carriers anyway? Just resisting your aggressive denial of what I know to be true and accusations that I'm lying (about hot towels, for some reason)! I don't know what parallel universe you're living in but I know what I've seen. > Do you work for one of them? No.
    - magduf 7y ago
      I'm not moving the goal posts. I've never seen free alcohol on domestic flights, and I don't see why I should restrict comparisons with international airlines to international flights with domestic carriers. A flight is a flight. As for hot towels, you'll have to do a lot better than a Youtube video with quizzical comments because apparently none of those people have ever seen it either. In fact, if it were so common, why would someone bother to post a short Youtube video of this? Obviously, given the focus of the short video and its title, the fact that they're handing out these towels is new and novel. And as I've said, I've flown domestically countless times, since the 1980s, and I've never seen this, ever. They would almost certainly do it for flights to/from Asia because it's normal there, but Americans aren't used to hot towels. After all, they never serve them in restaurants either.
      - chrisseaton 7y ago
        I don't know what else to tell you - your experience doesn't match mine. I guess we're not going to agree. I have definitely had hot towels and free alcohol on US domestic carriers. I'm not imagining it.
        tomhoward 7y ago
        I can understand your fellow debater getting frustrated here. Whilst at times you each seemed to be confused about what the other is asserting (i.e., international flights vs domestic flights), at other times you are asserting things that are generally known to be incorrect. Complementary alcohol - as a standard offering - is not normally offered to basic economy passengers on domestic flights in the U.S., and hasn't been for at least a couple of decades. That said, some airlines offer it as a promotion on some flights [1], which may be why you have experienced it. But it's not a norm that any coach passenger could expect on any domestic flight, the way it used to be in the earlier days of commercial air travel. The video you shared of hot towels being handed out in economy on a domestic U.S. flight was a one-off promotional event. It's also not the norm. Like I said, I get that the two of you were talking about different things and were sometimes confused about what the other was talking about. But you did inflame things by asserting/suggesting things that aren't really the case. [1] https://www.globaltravelerusa.com/american-airlines-to-offer-free-alcohol-on-select-flights/ https://www.globaltravelerusa.com/american-airlines-to-offer...

by magduf 7y ago

chrisseaton 7y ago

> Citation needed. https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/economy/default.aspx https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/eco... "Complimentary house beer and wines, soft drinks, juices, tea and freshly brewed illy coffee" That's in economy. > It doesn't exist on US planes, because it's an Asian custom. It's a hot, wet towel that they hand out to everyone before every meal so you can wipe your hands. Yes, hot wet towels. You get them before meals on US carriers as well. Here's a video of them being handed out in economy on a domestic US flight. https://youtu.be/KzUyCxFLQP8?t=85 https://youtu.be/KzUyCxFLQP8?t=85 Believe me now?

magduf 7y ago
No, I don't. Why are you lying to me? I looked at your own link for United, and this is what I found: "Beer, wine and spirits available for purchase on all flights" Again, why are you lying to me? It's right there in your own link. Your quote is only for international flights, where of course they're trying to compete with the other international carriers so they change the rules. I'm not talking only about international flights, I'm talking about domestic vs. international carriers, and domestic carriers, on domestic flights, do NOT offer free alcoholic drinks. Of course, I can't compare non-American carriers for domestic flights because American carriers have a government-granted cartel on domestic flights, but I can still compare domestic vs. international carriers' economy services. >Yes, hot wet towels. You get them before meals on US carriers as well That's total bullshit. I've flown domestically countless times, over decades, and have never seen this before. Just look at the comments in the video: this is not normal service, and people are commenting this way because they've never seen it either. Why are you trying so hard to defend American carriers anyway? Do you work for one of them?
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  You're moving the goal posts. Why are you now saying you're only talking about domestic? You didn't say that before. > Why are you trying so hard to defend American carriers anyway? Just resisting your aggressive denial of what I know to be true and accusations that I'm lying (about hot towels, for some reason)! I don't know what parallel universe you're living in but I know what I've seen. > Do you work for one of them? No.
  - magduf 7y ago
    I'm not moving the goal posts. I've never seen free alcohol on domestic flights, and I don't see why I should restrict comparisons with international airlines to international flights with domestic carriers. A flight is a flight. As for hot towels, you'll have to do a lot better than a Youtube video with quizzical comments because apparently none of those people have ever seen it either. In fact, if it were so common, why would someone bother to post a short Youtube video of this? Obviously, given the focus of the short video and its title, the fact that they're handing out these towels is new and novel. And as I've said, I've flown domestically countless times, since the 1980s, and I've never seen this, ever. They would almost certainly do it for flights to/from Asia because it's normal there, but Americans aren't used to hot towels. After all, they never serve them in restaurants either.
    - chrisseaton 7y ago
      I don't know what else to tell you - your experience doesn't match mine. I guess we're not going to agree. I have definitely had hot towels and free alcohol on US domestic carriers. I'm not imagining it.
      - tomhoward 7y ago
        I can understand your fellow debater getting frustrated here. Whilst at times you each seemed to be confused about what the other is asserting (i.e., international flights vs domestic flights), at other times you are asserting things that are generally known to be incorrect. Complementary alcohol - as a standard offering - is not normally offered to basic economy passengers on domestic flights in the U.S., and hasn't been for at least a couple of decades. That said, some airlines offer it as a promotion on some flights [1], which may be why you have experienced it. But it's not a norm that any coach passenger could expect on any domestic flight, the way it used to be in the earlier days of commercial air travel. The video you shared of hot towels being handed out in economy on a domestic U.S. flight was a one-off promotional event. It's also not the norm. Like I said, I get that the two of you were talking about different things and were sometimes confused about what the other was talking about. But you did inflame things by asserting/suggesting things that aren't really the case. [1] https://www.globaltravelerusa.com/american-airlines-to-offer-free-alcohol-on-select-flights/ https://www.globaltravelerusa.com/american-airlines-to-offer...