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‘No girls born’ for past three months in area of India covering 132 villages

155 points by rfreytag 7y ago

dijit 7y ago
That's alarming, I wonder how these kinds of things skew global population. If we assume girls are not preferred in the two most populous countries in the world (China, India) and their societies have a lower ratio of females to males, then the global trend of 1:1.08 female to male ratio must be skewed in a similar way somewhere else? right? Or does this account for that? In other news, I thought we were headed for a different problem[0]. [0]: http://theconversation.com/the-y-chromosome-is-disappearing-so-what-will-happen-to-men-90125 http://theconversation.com/the-y-chromosome-is-disappearing-...
- swebs 7y ago
  >the global trend of 1:1.08 female to male ratio must be skewed in a similar way somewhere else? It's skewed everywhere simply by the fact that women live to be older. When looking at people under 30, the male skew is even worse. Here's a population pyramid for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India#/media/File:Indien_Bev%C3%B6lkerungspyramide.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India#/media/File:Indien_Bev%C...
mruts 7y ago
Selective abortion is illegal? That’s pretty illiberal of them. Not that I’m surprised I suppose..
- wongarsu 7y ago
  It's not ideologically inspired though, it's simple necessity. How Western liberals feel about it doesn't seem relevant here.
  - mruts 7y ago
    I mean you could say that about almost every repressive and abusive policy: censorship, secret police, mass executions, etc
    - wongarsu 7y ago
      For me it's a simple "if we allow people (in India or China) to abort based on gender society can't continue to function". If it's necessary it doesn't matter if it's repressive or abusive (and I disagree that this example even is abusive, or particularly repressive, but that's beside the point).
raverbashing 7y ago
The quotes are very appropriate unfortunately It's a sober reminder of the feel good cultural relativism propped up by some
nuwandavek 7y ago
Wow! I just released a data story on Indian population with a section on "Case of the missing women"[0]. This has profound effects on a society like India, even 2-3 decades later! [0] https://numbersofindia.github.io/stories/population-06-2019/#ckpt2 https://numbersofindia.github.io/stories/population-06-2019/...
- amrrs 7y ago
  This is a beautiful piece of work! What's the tech used in it ? like D3.js / leaflet anything more?
- _frkl 7y ago
  Beautiful.
- songeater 7y ago
  beautiful work Vivek. one typo... your graphic on the food landscape says "MishItidoi" instead of "Mishtidoi"... the text heading is fine. Since this was so well done and clearly prepared with (heart)... didn't want that to stick out... especially to a bong like me :P
- SJetKaran 7y ago
  Nice work! I created a couple of charts illustrating similar ideas before (https://sainathadapa.github.io/blog/population-pyramids/ https://sainathadapa.github.io/blog/population-pyramids/). Minor request for change: In the graphs for population, density and fertility rate, you are showing the district boundaries, but it seems the underlying data you are using is for states isn't it? Why then show the boundaries of individual districts?
hycaria 7y ago
Terrible video autoplay.
ankit219 7y ago
This one might be a bureaucratic issue/miscalculation more than anything else. Even in the dark days when female foeticide was prevalent, it never happened at the same level. If the reporting is correct, and there is a high probability it is not given the propensity of Indian media to report news based on sensationality rather than facts, the findings would be really shocking.
JohnBooty 7y ago
I can only imagine that there are a number of secondary effects of creating a skewed male/female ratio. Simply put, there are not enough women to go around. I suspect this leads to lots of overly fierce competition for women. Women treated more as precious commodities and less as human beings. Men lacking experience dealing with women. A certain percentage of men being unhappy much of the time because finding a mate is frustrating, or they've simply given up on it. This is only conjecture but it's hard to imagine it being otherwise.
- deleted 7y ago
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- wickerman 7y ago
  Well I know that in places in China with similar issues the chinese are basically "importing" wives from Cambodia, Vietnam, etc. As for India, I'm not Indian but all of the indian women I've worked with were in arranged marriages or in "matches" that had been made by their parents. Obviously India is a big place but they were all from different areas (two punjabi, one from center-west India, one from Kerala in the south, one from north east). I was told that it's very widespread. I wouldn't know how this translates for men but it seems like it's not like in the west where men or women have to search for their partners themselves; families and match-making sites are a lot more prominent (any Indian around please feel free to correct me).
- novok 7y ago
  Looking at China, I think it's the opposite actually? By being the rare commodity, you get to dictate terms and be picky with a lot to choose from.
  - jacobush 7y ago
    It doesn't automatically follow. There are also stories of women being bought like property from abroad and imported into China.
  - Nasrudith 7y ago
    It is probably both really as it varies by agency of the women. Horribly if they can't say no (trafficed) then they can't be picky and the increased demand leverage goes not to them but their traffickers. Economics and literal slavery starts horrifying and only gets worse.
hackathonguy 7y ago
The article doesn't indicate how the villages were sampled. Suppose a village has a birth rate of 8 babies a year (2 babies every 3 months). There's (roughly) a 50% chance the babies will be male and female, 25% chance that they're both female and 25% chance that they're both male. That means that if you're sampling from a district that has 1,000 villages (with the average birth rate of 2 babies / 3 months, roughly the birth rate indicated by the article), one quarter of the villages will have 2 male babies - that's 250 villages with 0 female babies born in the last 3 months. Not making any claims regarding foeticide in India - just saying that the way they chose the villages matters a lot.
- empath75 7y ago
  Yeah this seems really important.
- ihaveajob 7y ago
  The phrase "in area of India covering 132 villages" seems to imply that it's a compact region, and if that's the case the suspicion of cherry picking would lose foundation.
  - anextomp 7y ago
    It would still be possible to find a compact subregion of a large region where no girls were born. However, the fact that it was 132 villages makes this seem unlikely, unless the large region contained many thousands of villages.
    - quaquaqua1 7y ago
      132 villages giving birth to only boys for 3 months straight is probably a 0.001% chance of happening naturally 1,000 births (a random guess) with 50% chance of girl, never happening once? yikes
      - tomatotomato37 7y ago
        I know that was probably a random percentage, but for a different perspective a 0.001% chance of an airline crash would still result in an accident each day just because of the sheer amount of air traffic, and that's just for one of the world's more "exotic" modes of transport. In a world of 7 billion people things that should happen extremely rarely still happen every day/month/year only because the dice get rolled so often
exo762 7y ago
That's just mothers exercising their body autonomy rights. Unless it can be shown that they are being forced to abort, I really don't see a problem.
- turk73 7y ago
  Nazi eugenics level monstrous by any measure. How quickly we forget.
- codr7 7y ago
  You don't see a problem with aborting because of the "wrong" gender? I don't know if you got the memo, but equal rights is a pretty Big Thing lately. I'm pretty sure most mothers would have preferred to keep all their children, and a society without women isn't going very far.
  - Shivetya 7y ago
    No. Before I get pummeled for that just be honest here. As soon as we state it is okay to abort for personal choice the discussion ends there. Why do we get to call in the woman's choice simply because we don't like the reason. It will get to be seriously interesting if DNA testing comes common place and women or couples decide to abort for reasons from sex, skin color, and if ever proven genetic orientation. You cannot have it both ways. Either the woman is in control of her reproductive process or she is not. There is no, but....
    - patwolf 7y ago
      I think that's completely intellectually honest to say that if you value woman's choice at all costs, then you can't really be too upset at this outcome. You could also argue that this is basically eugenics--selectively breeding/aborting to get a desirable trait, which in this case is sex. That's one of the reasons why abortion is so contentious. To some personal freedom and choice outweigh any negative consequence to society. To others the well-being of society outweighs personal freedom. It's the same reason why gun ownership and drug use is contentious.
    - 7y ago
distant_hat 7y ago
Its a clickbait headline. Not saying that there isn't an issue with female foeticide in India but this study isn't it. There are nearly 700 villages in the district, and most of them are small enough to have <2 births in the given time frame. Out of all those villages they just picked the ones which happened to have had no females. It is no coincidence, whoever did the study clearly knew what they were doing and cherry picked the data to sensationalize. You could do the same to any other similar sized district and get the same results.
- simonh 7y ago
  Have you read the study? Are you qualified to evaluate the statistical methodology and have you done such an analysis? If so fine, but otherwise neither you nor I are qualified to make a statement like that. There does seem to be something going on. According to Wikipedia only 43% of the population of the region are female. If 63 million women are statistically missing from the Indian population, I think it's pretty clear possible outliers like this need investigating, not denigrating.
  - vinceguidry 7y ago
    Anybody can and should feel free to offer their analysis regardless of their level of qualification. Otherwise we all just sit around waiting for the experts to chime in. And if it's wrong enough, it will prompt one to correct it.
    - estomagordo 7y ago
      Are you saying this as a Ph.D. in nonsensical internet debates or as a layman?
      - vinceguidry 7y ago
        As someone interested in improving the community by being inclusive.
    - nabla9 7y ago
aaron695 7y ago
This is fake news as I'd hope you'd know. There are issues in the region but this is impossible. "now new data has revealed that only female children were born in 129 different villages in the same district." https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/uttarkashis-genderbender-either-girls-or-boys-not-both/1580680 https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/uttarkashis-genderbe...
GaurVimen 7y ago
Well, that will help to solve their overpopulation problem, won't it.
- dang 7y ago
  Please don't post unsubstantive comments or flamebait to HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
williesleg 7y ago
I love this kind of hacker news. Makes me want to visit the site more often. Can we also get more Trump hate, global warming, white man bad, globalism good, taxes good? That would be sweet.
doorhurdle 7y ago
But the mothers are so empowered
ptah 7y ago
what has the consequences been historically speaking?
- Nasrudith 7y ago
  Generally internal instability from internal competition by discontent men, attempts to retain power by trying to "burn off" excess discontent fighting aged men with wars against some sort of external threat/scapegoat, or flat out exogamous raids to seize women - that has been an ancient dubious tradition since at least the bronze age. How applicable it will be in the modern context is another story as ancients didn't have the degree of interconnectedness, offense/defense asymmetry of weapon superiority, or the "play nice or else" of Pax Atomica which has kept Pakistan and India shockingly civil even with terrorist attacks, border skirmishes, and similiar incidents.
anecdotalShit 7y ago
I feel like Indians need to learn to take criticism in a better way. Every time something like this comes up, there's swathes of apologists claiming cherry picked/tampered data. In this case, no matter how cherry picked the data is, the probability of such an event is really low Disclaimer: I am from India
modi15 7y ago
Cherry picked data. Sensationalist headlines. Top of HN. There are a lot of things horrible about christian missionaries but their internet propaganda division is killing it.
- dang 7y ago
  Ok, but please don't post flamebait comments to HN and certainly not religious flamewar. If you think a story is bad for the site, the thing to do is flag it, not post comments that only make things worse. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Would you mind reviewing them? Edit: you've posted nationalistic flamebait in the past too, unfortunately. We ban accounts that do that, so please don't.
  - modi15 7y ago
    Apologies. I didnt intend for religious flamewar. It is my position that these news are sponsored by christian missionaries. I thought reporting the same in comments is the best way to highlight it. How else do you suggest I claim my position ? Not sure which of my posts constitute nationalistic flamebait. If you could highlight ill try to steer clear. Thx.
    - dang 7y ago
      The way to steer clear of flamebait is to provide factual information and avoid pejoratives. Your comment upthread was low on information and high on pejoratives. Flip that ratio and it will help a lot.
sametmax 7y ago
India is building more and more tensions, and it's really worrying me. They have 1.3 billions of people, living under an unbelievable social pressure (casts, diversity, religion, money...), on a land saturated by pollution with less and less water to drink. Reading this article, it seems possible they are running toward a gender crisis as well. Sex frustration is already a terrible thing there, and a big source of trouble. If this proves right, I don't see a way for it to end well. Now add on top of that they have very unstable borders and the nuclear weapon, and we got all the ingredients for something bad to happen.
- magduf 7y ago
  Well, assuming they don't get into a nuclear war, it sounds like things might work themselves out after a generation or two if they keep going like this. As you point out, they have a huge number of people; well, if they don't have many girls, after a couple of generations they're not going to have many children and the population will shrink drastically.
  - sametmax 7y ago
    I bet on thirsty enraged desperate people not keeping their pain to themself.
deleted 7y ago
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sbmthakur 7y ago
Female foetecide has been a big problem in India and it's being tackled by the Government as well as the Civil society. However, this particular story has a lot of inconsistency and doesn't provide a true picture. The problems with it are being actively discussed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/IndiaSpeaks/comments/cgvumc/we_need_to_talk_about_how_easy_it_is_to_make_up_a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/IndiaSpeaks/comments/cgvumc/we_need...

155 points by rfreytag 7y ago

That's alarming, I wonder how these kinds of things skew global population. If we assume girls are not preferred in the two most populous countries in the world (China, India) and their societies have a lower ratio of females to males, then the global trend of 1:1.08 female to male ratio must be skewed in a similar way somewhere else? right? Or does this account for that? In other news, I thought we were headed for a different problem[0]. [0]: http://theconversation.com/the-y-chromosome-is-disappearing-so-what-will-happen-to-men-90125 http://theconversation.com/the-y-chromosome-is-disappearing-...

swebs 7y ago
>the global trend of 1:1.08 female to male ratio must be skewed in a similar way somewhere else? It's skewed everywhere simply by the fact that women live to be older. When looking at people under 30, the male skew is even worse. Here's a population pyramid for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India#/media/File:Indien_Bev%C3%B6lkerungspyramide.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/India#/media/File:Indien_Bev%C...

mruts 7y ago

Selective abortion is illegal? That’s pretty illiberal of them. Not that I’m surprised I suppose..

wongarsu 7y ago
It's not ideologically inspired though, it's simple necessity. How Western liberals feel about it doesn't seem relevant here.
- mruts 7y ago
  I mean you could say that about almost every repressive and abusive policy: censorship, secret police, mass executions, etc
  - wongarsu 7y ago
    For me it's a simple "if we allow people (in India or China) to abort based on gender society can't continue to function". If it's necessary it doesn't matter if it's repressive or abusive (and I disagree that this example even is abusive, or particularly repressive, but that's beside the point).

raverbashing 7y ago

The quotes are very appropriate unfortunately It's a sober reminder of the feel good cultural relativism propped up by some

nuwandavek 7y ago

Wow! I just released a data story on Indian population with a section on "Case of the missing women"[0]. This has profound effects on a society like India, even 2-3 decades later! [0] https://numbersofindia.github.io/stories/population-06-2019/#ckpt2 https://numbersofindia.github.io/stories/population-06-2019/...

amrrs 7y ago
This is a beautiful piece of work! What's the tech used in it ? like D3.js / leaflet anything more?
_frkl 7y ago
Beautiful.
songeater 7y ago
beautiful work Vivek. one typo... your graphic on the food landscape says "MishItidoi" instead of "Mishtidoi"... the text heading is fine. Since this was so well done and clearly prepared with (heart)... didn't want that to stick out... especially to a bong like me :P
SJetKaran 7y ago
Nice work! I created a couple of charts illustrating similar ideas before (https://sainathadapa.github.io/blog/population-pyramids/ https://sainathadapa.github.io/blog/population-pyramids/). Minor request for change: In the graphs for population, density and fertility rate, you are showing the district boundaries, but it seems the underlying data you are using is for states isn't it? Why then show the boundaries of individual districts?

hycaria 7y ago

Terrible video autoplay.

ankit219 7y ago

This one might be a bureaucratic issue/miscalculation more than anything else. Even in the dark days when female foeticide was prevalent, it never happened at the same level. If the reporting is correct, and there is a high probability it is not given the propensity of Indian media to report news based on sensationality rather than facts, the findings would be really shocking.

JohnBooty 7y ago

I can only imagine that there are a number of secondary effects of creating a skewed male/female ratio. Simply put, there are not enough women to go around. I suspect this leads to lots of overly fierce competition for women. Women treated more as precious commodities and less as human beings. Men lacking experience dealing with women. A certain percentage of men being unhappy much of the time because finding a mate is frustrating, or they've simply given up on it. This is only conjecture but it's hard to imagine it being otherwise.

deleted 7y ago
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wickerman 7y ago
Well I know that in places in China with similar issues the chinese are basically "importing" wives from Cambodia, Vietnam, etc. As for India, I'm not Indian but all of the indian women I've worked with were in arranged marriages or in "matches" that had been made by their parents. Obviously India is a big place but they were all from different areas (two punjabi, one from center-west India, one from Kerala in the south, one from north east). I was told that it's very widespread. I wouldn't know how this translates for men but it seems like it's not like in the west where men or women have to search for their partners themselves; families and match-making sites are a lot more prominent (any Indian around please feel free to correct me).
novok 7y ago
Looking at China, I think it's the opposite actually? By being the rare commodity, you get to dictate terms and be picky with a lot to choose from.
- jacobush 7y ago
  It doesn't automatically follow. There are also stories of women being bought like property from abroad and imported into China.
- Nasrudith 7y ago
  It is probably both really as it varies by agency of the women. Horribly if they can't say no (trafficed) then they can't be picky and the increased demand leverage goes not to them but their traffickers. Economics and literal slavery starts horrifying and only gets worse.

hackathonguy 7y ago

The article doesn't indicate how the villages were sampled. Suppose a village has a birth rate of 8 babies a year (2 babies every 3 months). There's (roughly) a 50% chance the babies will be male and female, 25% chance that they're both female and 25% chance that they're both male. That means that if you're sampling from a district that has 1,000 villages (with the average birth rate of 2 babies / 3 months, roughly the birth rate indicated by the article), one quarter of the villages will have 2 male babies - that's 250 villages with 0 female babies born in the last 3 months. Not making any claims regarding foeticide in India - just saying that the way they chose the villages matters a lot.

empath75 7y ago
Yeah this seems really important.
ihaveajob 7y ago
The phrase "in area of India covering 132 villages" seems to imply that it's a compact region, and if that's the case the suspicion of cherry picking would lose foundation.
- anextomp 7y ago
  It would still be possible to find a compact subregion of a large region where no girls were born. However, the fact that it was 132 villages makes this seem unlikely, unless the large region contained many thousands of villages.
  - quaquaqua1 7y ago
    132 villages giving birth to only boys for 3 months straight is probably a 0.001% chance of happening naturally 1,000 births (a random guess) with 50% chance of girl, never happening once? yikes
    - tomatotomato37 7y ago
      I know that was probably a random percentage, but for a different perspective a 0.001% chance of an airline crash would still result in an accident each day just because of the sheer amount of air traffic, and that's just for one of the world's more "exotic" modes of transport. In a world of 7 billion people things that should happen extremely rarely still happen every day/month/year only because the dice get rolled so often

exo762 7y ago

That's just mothers exercising their body autonomy rights. Unless it can be shown that they are being forced to abort, I really don't see a problem.

turk73 7y ago
Nazi eugenics level monstrous by any measure. How quickly we forget.
codr7 7y ago
You don't see a problem with aborting because of the "wrong" gender? I don't know if you got the memo, but equal rights is a pretty Big Thing lately. I'm pretty sure most mothers would have preferred to keep all their children, and a society without women isn't going very far.
- Shivetya 7y ago
  No. Before I get pummeled for that just be honest here. As soon as we state it is okay to abort for personal choice the discussion ends there. Why do we get to call in the woman's choice simply because we don't like the reason. It will get to be seriously interesting if DNA testing comes common place and women or couples decide to abort for reasons from sex, skin color, and if ever proven genetic orientation. You cannot have it both ways. Either the woman is in control of her reproductive process or she is not. There is no, but....
  - patwolf 7y ago
    I think that's completely intellectually honest to say that if you value woman's choice at all costs, then you can't really be too upset at this outcome. You could also argue that this is basically eugenics--selectively breeding/aborting to get a desirable trait, which in this case is sex. That's one of the reasons why abortion is so contentious. To some personal freedom and choice outweigh any negative consequence to society. To others the well-being of society outweighs personal freedom. It's the same reason why gun ownership and drug use is contentious.
  - 7y ago

distant_hat 7y ago

Its a clickbait headline. Not saying that there isn't an issue with female foeticide in India but this study isn't it. There are nearly 700 villages in the district, and most of them are small enough to have <2 births in the given time frame. Out of all those villages they just picked the ones which happened to have had no females. It is no coincidence, whoever did the study clearly knew what they were doing and cherry picked the data to sensationalize. You could do the same to any other similar sized district and get the same results.

simonh 7y ago
Have you read the study? Are you qualified to evaluate the statistical methodology and have you done such an analysis? If so fine, but otherwise neither you nor I are qualified to make a statement like that. There does seem to be something going on. According to Wikipedia only 43% of the population of the region are female. If 63 million women are statistically missing from the Indian population, I think it's pretty clear possible outliers like this need investigating, not denigrating.
- vinceguidry 7y ago
  Anybody can and should feel free to offer their analysis regardless of their level of qualification. Otherwise we all just sit around waiting for the experts to chime in. And if it's wrong enough, it will prompt one to correct it.
  - estomagordo 7y ago
    Are you saying this as a Ph.D. in nonsensical internet debates or as a layman?
    - vinceguidry 7y ago
      As someone interested in improving the community by being inclusive.
  - nabla9 7y ago

aaron695 7y ago

This is fake news as I'd hope you'd know. There are issues in the region but this is impossible. "now new data has revealed that only female children were born in 129 different villages in the same district." https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/uttarkashis-genderbender-either-girls-or-boys-not-both/1580680 https://www.outlookindia.com/newsscroll/uttarkashis-genderbe...

GaurVimen 7y ago

Well, that will help to solve their overpopulation problem, won't it.

dang 7y ago
Please don't post unsubstantive comments or flamebait to HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

williesleg 7y ago

I love this kind of hacker news. Makes me want to visit the site more often. Can we also get more Trump hate, global warming, white man bad, globalism good, taxes good? That would be sweet.

doorhurdle 7y ago

But the mothers are so empowered

ptah 7y ago

what has the consequences been historically speaking?

Nasrudith 7y ago
Generally internal instability from internal competition by discontent men, attempts to retain power by trying to "burn off" excess discontent fighting aged men with wars against some sort of external threat/scapegoat, or flat out exogamous raids to seize women - that has been an ancient dubious tradition since at least the bronze age. How applicable it will be in the modern context is another story as ancients didn't have the degree of interconnectedness, offense/defense asymmetry of weapon superiority, or the "play nice or else" of Pax Atomica which has kept Pakistan and India shockingly civil even with terrorist attacks, border skirmishes, and similiar incidents.

anecdotalShit 7y ago

I feel like Indians need to learn to take criticism in a better way. Every time something like this comes up, there's swathes of apologists claiming cherry picked/tampered data. In this case, no matter how cherry picked the data is, the probability of such an event is really low Disclaimer: I am from India

modi15 7y ago

Cherry picked data. Sensationalist headlines. Top of HN. There are a lot of things horrible about christian missionaries but their internet propaganda division is killing it.

dang 7y ago
Ok, but please don't post flamebait comments to HN and certainly not religious flamewar. If you think a story is bad for the site, the thing to do is flag it, not post comments that only make things worse. This is in the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html. Would you mind reviewing them? Edit: you've posted nationalistic flamebait in the past too, unfortunately. We ban accounts that do that, so please don't.
- modi15 7y ago
  Apologies. I didnt intend for religious flamewar. It is my position that these news are sponsored by christian missionaries. I thought reporting the same in comments is the best way to highlight it. How else do you suggest I claim my position ? Not sure which of my posts constitute nationalistic flamebait. If you could highlight ill try to steer clear. Thx.
  - dang 7y ago
    The way to steer clear of flamebait is to provide factual information and avoid pejoratives. Your comment upthread was low on information and high on pejoratives. Flip that ratio and it will help a lot.

sametmax 7y ago

India is building more and more tensions, and it's really worrying me. They have 1.3 billions of people, living under an unbelievable social pressure (casts, diversity, religion, money...), on a land saturated by pollution with less and less water to drink. Reading this article, it seems possible they are running toward a gender crisis as well. Sex frustration is already a terrible thing there, and a big source of trouble. If this proves right, I don't see a way for it to end well. Now add on top of that they have very unstable borders and the nuclear weapon, and we got all the ingredients for something bad to happen.

magduf 7y ago
Well, assuming they don't get into a nuclear war, it sounds like things might work themselves out after a generation or two if they keep going like this. As you point out, they have a huge number of people; well, if they don't have many girls, after a couple of generations they're not going to have many children and the population will shrink drastically.
- sametmax 7y ago
  I bet on thirsty enraged desperate people not keeping their pain to themself.

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sbmthakur 7y ago

Female foetecide has been a big problem in India and it's being tackled by the Government as well as the Civil society. However, this particular story has a lot of inconsistency and doesn't provide a true picture. The problems with it are being actively discussed here: https://www.reddit.com/r/IndiaSpeaks/comments/cgvumc/we_need_to_talk_about_how_easy_it_is_to_make_up_a/ https://www.reddit.com/r/IndiaSpeaks/comments/cgvumc/we_need...