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This is pre internet, when people still had an expectation of privacy. By all accounts it was a joke he had made many times before. I find it interesting to co

This is pre internet, when people still had an expectation of privacy. By all accounts it was a joke he had made many times before. I find it interesting to compare with say Ryanair. Which in some ways has the same approach to brutal honesty, and a seemingly similarly abrasive boss. Ryanair seem to get away with it though, I suspect because we've become more aware of how the sausage is made.

mytailorisrich 7y ago
> when people still had an expectation of privacy. What expectation of privacy do you have during a public, filmed, speech?
- benj111 7y ago
  There wasn't an expectation that it would have gone up on the internet, shared with millions, etc, etc, etc. If I went to a wedding in the 90s I wouldn't have been surprised if it would have been filmed, I would have been surprised if that video had been widely shared. Today every man and his dog could potentially be filming and sharing on facebook. In short, privacy isnt (or wasn't) a binary choice between being completely private and wide open to the public, and things tended to trend more to the private, relative to today.
  - mytailorisrich 7y ago
    Hmm, I don't agree with that. It wasn't a random wedding. It was an important conference, professionally filmed, and with the press in attendance, and of course what he said was seized upon by the media as one could have foreseen. I don't think he expected his speech to remain relatively confidential. I think he somehow thought what he said was not a big deal.
    - benj111 7y ago
      This comment is theoretically readable by billions of people, I'd be most surprised, even if I made the most outrageous comment, that anything more than a few down votes would occur. No its not confidential, but its an after dinner speech. Such things generally don't make headlines, or even get reported on at all. You're right in that I don't think he thought it was a big deal, he had tailored the speed to a certain demographic, but it didn't stay 'private' within that demographic as he had expected.

mytailorisrich 7y ago

> when people still had an expectation of privacy. What expectation of privacy do you have during a public, filmed, speech?

benj111 7y ago
There wasn't an expectation that it would have gone up on the internet, shared with millions, etc, etc, etc. If I went to a wedding in the 90s I wouldn't have been surprised if it would have been filmed, I would have been surprised if that video had been widely shared. Today every man and his dog could potentially be filming and sharing on facebook. In short, privacy isnt (or wasn't) a binary choice between being completely private and wide open to the public, and things tended to trend more to the private, relative to today.
- mytailorisrich 7y ago
  Hmm, I don't agree with that. It wasn't a random wedding. It was an important conference, professionally filmed, and with the press in attendance, and of course what he said was seized upon by the media as one could have foreseen. I don't think he expected his speech to remain relatively confidential. I think he somehow thought what he said was not a big deal.
  - benj111 7y ago
    This comment is theoretically readable by billions of people, I'd be most surprised, even if I made the most outrageous comment, that anything more than a few down votes would occur. No its not confidential, but its an after dinner speech. Such things generally don't make headlines, or even get reported on at all. You're right in that I don't think he thought it was a big deal, he had tailored the speed to a certain demographic, but it didn't stay 'private' within that demographic as he had expected.