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They should have banned outdoor cats at the same time. Cats shouldn't be declawed and neither should they be outside, but if they're going to be outside it is
by darkpuma 7y ago
They should have banned outdoor cats at the same time. Cats shouldn't be declawed and neither should they be outside, but if they're going to be outside it is better for the native wildlife if they have been declawed (making them ineffective hunters.)
- qwsxyh 7y agoThis is such an American comment.
- controlweather 7y agoIt’s been illegal in Washington forever
- alasdair_ 7y ago>It’s been illegal in Washington forever No it hasn't. https://www.thesprucepets.com/states-where-declawing-is-illegal-554735 https://www.thesprucepets.com/states-where-declawing-is-ille... "No U.S. states ban the practice of declawing." (2019) NY is the first state to ban it statewide.
- darkpuma 7y agoI guess you disapprove? I don't take it personally, but neither do I understand your characterization. Wouldn't the stereotypical American position on this matter be one of hyper-individualism and prioritizing your property (your pet cat's desire to kill native birds) before the wellbeing of the environment? Those are stereotypes of course, but stereotypes seem to have informed your remark.
- reverend_gonzo 7y agoIf you're going to ban your cat's desire to kill birds, you should also ban humans' desire to eat meat.
- pg_is_a_butt 7y ago*farm
- qwsxyh 7y agoHere in the UK we don't have this moral panic over outside cats. It seems to be a uniquely New World problem.
- Joakal 7y agoCats are known to kill billions of animals per year. https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-15/cats-kill-billions-of-animals-each-year-in-australia/11307684?pfmredir=sm https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2019-07-15/cats-kill-billions...
- qwsxyh 7y agohttps://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/advice/gardening-for-wildlife/animal-deterrents/cats-and-garden-birds/are-cats-causing-bird-declines/ https://www.rspb.org.uk/birds-and-wildlife/advice/gardening-...
- keanzu 7y agoFrom your link: The most recent figures of how many creatures are killed by cats are from the Mammal Society. They estimate that cats in the UK catch up to 275 million prey items a year, of which 27 million are birds. Joakal claimed billions. Your link says a quarter billion just in the UK.
- happytoexplain 7y agoI'm genuinely curious where this thought came from. To me, the parent comment is diametrically opposite the American stereotype, which, in my experience, involves a loathing of regulation and a disregard for the wellbeing of animals and wildlife.
- sokoloff 7y agoMy cat growing up was declawed and seemed to still be a fairly effective hunter given the frequency of offerings she brought home. She could also climb trees up to about 7-8 feet.
- darkpuma 7y agoAre you suggesting that house cat claws are vestigial? That simply isn't the case. Their claws improve their hunting success rate dramatically since they use them to snare their prey. A declawed cat may still have some success in hunting, but will be far less effective. In fact is one of the arguments I've often heard offered up by advocates of declawing bans (to reiterate, I also support declawing bans but I believe that particular argument against it is misguided.)
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- m463 7y agoI think this person's comment may be unpopular, but cats have decimated the world's songbird population. "Our findings suggest that free-ranging cats cause substantially greater wildlife mortality than previously thought and are likely the single greatest source of anthropogenic mortality for U.S. birds and mammals" I would say further that declawing doesn't prevent hunting and killing. https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/29/cats-wild-birds-mammals-study/1873871/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2013/01/29/cats-w...