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I mean considering the US is 2,959,064.44 square miles and UK is 93,628, I’d say we’re doing pretty good for having 30x the area and only 5x the population. I’

by wincy 7y ago

I mean considering the US is 2,959,064.44 square miles and UK is 93,628, I’d say we’re doing pretty good for having 30x the area and only 5x the population. I’m greatly enjoying posting this from my Google Fiber gigabit connection, thanks.

flukus 7y ago
(Total land area/population) is only be relevant if telecom infrastructure were rolled out in a uniform grid pattern across the entire country. Most of the population lives in a much smaller area.
- rhino369 7y ago
  Sure, but American urban and suburban areas are less dense than European urban and suburban areas. American sprawling metro areas have much larger installation costs because you have to run more fiber to hit each home. If you compare American options to other large anglosphere countries with sprawling cities and suburbs (Canada and Australia), we do all right in comparison.
brokenmachine 7y ago
Australia is 2,969,898 square miles and 1/13 the population of the US. I still don't think our internet should be so slow because 85% of our population lives within 50km of the coast (in 2001, probably more now). Our "average fixed broadband" speed is 33Mbit. I'm really jealous of your fibre. The fastest residential speed available where I live, in a major city centre, is 100Mbit. I'm considering moving to NZ.
- gingabriska 7y ago
  When I lived in NZ, I used to pay $40 a month for 250mbps up and down.
  - brokenmachine 7y ago
    Very tempting. I've seen posts from people with 1Gbit, but I don't know how much it cost.
rasz 7y ago
How about NY? or even just Manhattan? lets say 1st Ave. Pretty dense, populated area right? Wanna guess your ISP and speeds availability there?
- wincy 7y ago
  Nobody lives there though. It's far too crowded.
- CryptoBanker 7y ago
  Both Verizon and Spectum and possibly RCN offer Gigabit up/down speeds in the NYC area now and have done so for the last 3 years
  - rasz 7y ago
    what area of NYC exactly? because 1st Ave you have a "choice" of DSL or Spectrum Business _Cable_. Heart of industrialized USA, world finance center, and lets not forget "Manhattan's population density is 66,940 people per square mile (25,846/km²), highest of any county in the United States." "New York Votes to Kick Spectrum Cable Out of the State" https://fortune.com/2018/07/29/spectrum-communications-kicked-out-new-york/ https://fortune.com/2018/07/29/spectrum-communications-kicke... "New York City sues Verizon for not completing citywide fiber network" https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/14/nyc-sues-verizon/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/14/nyc-sues-verizon/

by wincy 7y ago

flukus 7y ago

(Total land area/population) is only be relevant if telecom infrastructure were rolled out in a uniform grid pattern across the entire country. Most of the population lives in a much smaller area.

rhino369 7y ago
Sure, but American urban and suburban areas are less dense than European urban and suburban areas. American sprawling metro areas have much larger installation costs because you have to run more fiber to hit each home. If you compare American options to other large anglosphere countries with sprawling cities and suburbs (Canada and Australia), we do all right in comparison.

brokenmachine 7y ago

Australia is 2,969,898 square miles and 1/13 the population of the US. I still don't think our internet should be so slow because 85% of our population lives within 50km of the coast (in 2001, probably more now). Our "average fixed broadband" speed is 33Mbit. I'm really jealous of your fibre. The fastest residential speed available where I live, in a major city centre, is 100Mbit. I'm considering moving to NZ.

gingabriska 7y ago
When I lived in NZ, I used to pay $40 a month for 250mbps up and down.
- brokenmachine 7y ago
  Very tempting. I've seen posts from people with 1Gbit, but I don't know how much it cost.

rasz 7y ago

How about NY? or even just Manhattan? lets say 1st Ave. Pretty dense, populated area right? Wanna guess your ISP and speeds availability there?

wincy 7y ago
Nobody lives there though. It's far too crowded.
CryptoBanker 7y ago
Both Verizon and Spectum and possibly RCN offer Gigabit up/down speeds in the NYC area now and have done so for the last 3 years
- rasz 7y ago
  what area of NYC exactly? because 1st Ave you have a "choice" of DSL or Spectrum Business _Cable_. Heart of industrialized USA, world finance center, and lets not forget "Manhattan's population density is 66,940 people per square mile (25,846/km²), highest of any county in the United States." "New York Votes to Kick Spectrum Cable Out of the State" https://fortune.com/2018/07/29/spectrum-communications-kicked-out-new-york/ https://fortune.com/2018/07/29/spectrum-communications-kicke... "New York City sues Verizon for not completing citywide fiber network" https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/14/nyc-sues-verizon/ https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/14/nyc-sues-verizon/