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The US doesn't allow dual-citizenship either right? My girlfriend and her family have Taiwanese, Chinese and US citizenship/passports though. Wonder how that w

by f00_ 7y ago

The US doesn't allow dual-citizenship either right? My girlfriend and her family have Taiwanese, Chinese and US citizenship/passports though. Wonder how that works

24gttghh 7y ago
https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-lega... No such restriction exists at least generally.
NikolaNovak 7y ago
IANAL but strictly speaking, it doesn't, legally. It may, practically, until/unless systems, trackers and docs catch up with each other...
- NikolaNovak 7y ago
  apparently, I was quite wrong: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-lega...
koolba 7y ago
The US does allow it. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-lega...
CharlesColeman 7y ago
> The US doesn't allow dual-citizenship either right? The US allows dual citizenship: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/dual-citizenship-allowed-naturalizing-us-citizens.html https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/dual-citizenship-all... > The United States will not ask naturalizing citizens to take any steps to formally renounce the citizenship of their home country. Nor will it stop U.S. citizens from later adopting citizenship in another country – though if their intention is to give up U.S. citizenship, they can certainly do so. You may continue to vote in your home country, if it allows it. > All this does not mean that the U.S. will tolerate divided loyalties. Dual citizens must obey U.S. laws, uphold the U.S. Constitution, and in every other way adhere to the naturalization oath that they take. They are also required by the I.N.A. to carry their U.S. passport when leaving the U.S., and to present it upon reentry.
- dmurray 7y ago
  There's a bit of doublespeak going on here. What could they mean by "take any steps to formally renounce their citizenship" that doesn't include (from the naturalization oath): > I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;... They won't require you to formally tell the other country you are renouncing it, which is good enough for practical purposes, since most other countries don't allow you to renounce your citizenship simply by telling some US bureaucrat you renounce and abjure it.
  - techsupporter 7y ago
    What the State Department (probably, I don't work for them) means is that naturalizing as a United States citizen may be done with no input from a person's other country of citizenship. Contrast with, for example, Germany, wherein a naturalization certificate may not be delivered to an applicant before the applicant shows that he or she affirmatively renounced any other citizenships or received permission from the German government to proceed with naturalization absent that step being taken.

by f00_ 7y ago

The US doesn't allow dual-citizenship either right? My girlfriend and her family have Taiwanese, Chinese and US citizenship/passports though. Wonder how that works

24gttghh 7y ago

https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-lega... No such restriction exists at least generally.

NikolaNovak 7y ago

IANAL but strictly speaking, it doesn't, legally. It may, practically, until/unless systems, trackers and docs catch up with each other...

NikolaNovak 7y ago
apparently, I was quite wrong: https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-lega...

koolba 7y ago

The US does allow it. https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-legal-considerations/Advice-about-Possible-Loss-of-US-Nationality-Dual-Nationality/Dual-Nationality.html https://travel.state.gov/content/travel/en/legal/travel-lega...

CharlesColeman 7y ago

> The US doesn't allow dual-citizenship either right? The US allows dual citizenship: https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/dual-citizenship-allowed-naturalizing-us-citizens.html https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/dual-citizenship-all... > The United States will not ask naturalizing citizens to take any steps to formally renounce the citizenship of their home country. Nor will it stop U.S. citizens from later adopting citizenship in another country – though if their intention is to give up U.S. citizenship, they can certainly do so. You may continue to vote in your home country, if it allows it. > All this does not mean that the U.S. will tolerate divided loyalties. Dual citizens must obey U.S. laws, uphold the U.S. Constitution, and in every other way adhere to the naturalization oath that they take. They are also required by the I.N.A. to carry their U.S. passport when leaving the U.S., and to present it upon reentry.

dmurray 7y ago
There's a bit of doublespeak going on here. What could they mean by "take any steps to formally renounce their citizenship" that doesn't include (from the naturalization oath): > I absolutely and entirely renounce and abjure all allegiance and fidelity to any foreign prince, potentate, state, or sovereignty of whom or which I have heretofore been a subject or citizen;... They won't require you to formally tell the other country you are renouncing it, which is good enough for practical purposes, since most other countries don't allow you to renounce your citizenship simply by telling some US bureaucrat you renounce and abjure it.
- techsupporter 7y ago
  What the State Department (probably, I don't work for them) means is that naturalizing as a United States citizen may be done with no input from a person's other country of citizenship. Contrast with, for example, Germany, wherein a naturalization certificate may not be delivered to an applicant before the applicant shows that he or she affirmatively renounced any other citizenships or received permission from the German government to proceed with naturalization absent that step being taken.