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There's a lot of negative things that can be said about president Trump, but I for one am glad he's taken economic action against China. It seems like most Nati

There's a lot of negative things that can be said about president Trump, but I for one am glad he's taken economic action against China. It seems like most Nations have resigned themselves to let China become the preeminent super power, which is very troubling to me; to let a nation with legitimate concentration camps, prisoner organ harvesting, and a general lack of moral compass become the most powerful country in the world is a bad idea to me.

addicted 7y ago
TPP was little more than an attempt to get a bunch of countries to stand up to China. Trump is hardly the first US president to do so. Arguably, Trump's economic actions and continued threats against the EU has led to EU countries cooperating with China in ways they refused to before.
- bushdid911 7y ago
  Yes, this exactly! I can't believe how everyone is paying attention to such irrelevant things! Like how "Trump's Economy" sets 'records' everyday, or how just because everyone in the United States is making more money and things are turning around, doesn't mean it's a good thing for the whole world. Those people who voted him in are just selfish, they only care about their own kids.
- lostlogin 7y ago
  > TPP was little more than an attempt to get a bunch of countries to stand up to China. It seemed more like we were being bullied into allowing US companies to bulldoze our institutions for their profit, while not giving much in return.
billfruit 7y ago
American prison system is deeply problematic too, one which both parties has continually failed to reform. Perhaps CCP see themselves as guardians of a country, a system thousands of years old. In comparison the existence of the modern democratic West has been for a mere ephemeral duration, and look who likes to lecture whom..
- loyukfai 7y ago
  CCP see themselves as the guardian of the CCP, I'd say. Everything else is hot air.
- w_s_l 7y ago
  I don't understand what a privatized prison system has to do anything with the rest of your argument which seems to be more of a rant than anything. Democracy isn't new its older than communism. Democracy also took time to develop in the West. It's unfathomable to someone who has never been fed information that the Party didn't change.
  - billfruit 7y ago
    I mean Chinese civilization, not just communism.
    - w_s_l 7y ago
      so communism is but an ephemeral and insignificant given the lengthy and turbulent history of China. It's only been around for roughly 70 years compared to the backdrop of many millenias. Democracy has been in America for well over a 100 years, so it has china beat.
      - 24gttghh 7y ago
        >Democracy has been in America for well over a 100 years, so it has china beat. If we're going to play this game: 243 years to be more precise. While communism as a nascent ideology was only invented in 1848... (that's 171 years). 97 years in place as an established government if you count what the USSR called communism as such...and yes ~70 years since the end of the Chinese Civil war.
  - clydethefrog 7y ago
    >Democracy isn't new its older than communism Many anthropologists would disagree. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism#Nature_of_primitive_communist_societies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism#Nature_of_...
faissaloo 7y ago
I totally agree. I'm pretty sure it's the only good thing Trump has done in his entire presidency, but someone needs to challenge China's export supremacy.
xsdf 7y ago
Trump does not object to this. From the article: > Meanwhile, U.S. President Trump said Monday that Chinese leader Xi Jinping had acted responsibly in his handling of the Hong Kong protests, which Mr. Trump described as “relatively nonviolent.” > “He has allowed that to go on for a long time,” Mr. Trump said of Mr. Xi.

addicted 7y ago

TPP was little more than an attempt to get a bunch of countries to stand up to China. Trump is hardly the first US president to do so. Arguably, Trump's economic actions and continued threats against the EU has led to EU countries cooperating with China in ways they refused to before.

bushdid911 7y ago
Yes, this exactly! I can't believe how everyone is paying attention to such irrelevant things! Like how "Trump's Economy" sets 'records' everyday, or how just because everyone in the United States is making more money and things are turning around, doesn't mean it's a good thing for the whole world. Those people who voted him in are just selfish, they only care about their own kids.
lostlogin 7y ago
> TPP was little more than an attempt to get a bunch of countries to stand up to China. It seemed more like we were being bullied into allowing US companies to bulldoze our institutions for their profit, while not giving much in return.

billfruit 7y ago

American prison system is deeply problematic too, one which both parties has continually failed to reform. Perhaps CCP see themselves as guardians of a country, a system thousands of years old. In comparison the existence of the modern democratic West has been for a mere ephemeral duration, and look who likes to lecture whom..

loyukfai 7y ago
CCP see themselves as the guardian of the CCP, I'd say. Everything else is hot air.
w_s_l 7y ago
I don't understand what a privatized prison system has to do anything with the rest of your argument which seems to be more of a rant than anything. Democracy isn't new its older than communism. Democracy also took time to develop in the West. It's unfathomable to someone who has never been fed information that the Party didn't change.
- billfruit 7y ago
  I mean Chinese civilization, not just communism.
  - w_s_l 7y ago
    so communism is but an ephemeral and insignificant given the lengthy and turbulent history of China. It's only been around for roughly 70 years compared to the backdrop of many millenias. Democracy has been in America for well over a 100 years, so it has china beat.
    - 24gttghh 7y ago
      >Democracy has been in America for well over a 100 years, so it has china beat. If we're going to play this game: 243 years to be more precise. While communism as a nascent ideology was only invented in 1848... (that's 171 years). 97 years in place as an established government if you count what the USSR called communism as such...and yes ~70 years since the end of the Chinese Civil war.
- clydethefrog 7y ago
  >Democracy isn't new its older than communism Many anthropologists would disagree. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism#Nature_of_primitive_communist_societies https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_communism#Nature_of_...

faissaloo 7y ago

I totally agree. I'm pretty sure it's the only good thing Trump has done in his entire presidency, but someone needs to challenge China's export supremacy.

xsdf 7y ago

Trump does not object to this. From the article: > Meanwhile, U.S. President Trump said Monday that Chinese leader Xi Jinping had acted responsibly in his handling of the Hong Kong protests, which Mr. Trump described as “relatively nonviolent.” > “He has allowed that to go on for a long time,” Mr. Trump said of Mr. Xi.