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The upsides are for the companies shipping it, the downsides are for the users. So it's not a surprising outcome.

by wlesieutre 7y ago

_bxg1 7y ago
Tell that to people who want to use modern services on a Linux workstation
- wlesieutre 7y ago
  That's nice for them, but no matter what OS you're on the desktop client is probably crappier than loading up the webpage, with the one upside of giving you a separate icon in the dock and app switcher. Even with the performance improved, the "stuff the whole app in one web view" implementation is still showing. Clearly this isn't an Electron limitation; VS Code handles multiple windows just as well as any other text editor. Slack's desktop client is basically "It's a web browser except worse and with the URL bar hidden." Since chat requires an internet connection and it's not like Slack's desktop version launches particularly fast, I'm not sure that it does anything better than using a browser. We'll see if they support multiple instances on iOS 13. If they do, maybe we can get a Mac version based on that for something closer to native desktop behavior.
  - _bxg1 7y ago
    > no matter what OS you're on the desktop client is probably crappier than loading up the webpage I don't see how it could ever be worse than the webpage. And it gives you nice perks like notification badge integration, which for me personally is essential.
    - wlesieutre 7y ago
      My web browser has windows and tabs and lets me open Slack in multiple places if I want to see more than one view of Slack at the same time. I usually don't need to do that, but when I do it's annoying that the desktop client prevents it. It's fine that my phone doesn't let me open two text conversations at once since that's all the space it has, but on a computer with a 24+ inch screen and multiple virtual desktop spaces with different sets of tasks, it's a pointless limitation.
      - wlesieutre 7y ago
        For reference - the saddest little File menu https://i.imgur.com/YPoCmbR.png https://i.imgur.com/YPoCmbR.png

The upsides are for the companies shipping it, the downsides are for the users. So it's not a surprising outcome.

_bxg1 7y ago

Tell that to people who want to use modern services on a Linux workstation

wlesieutre 7y ago
That's nice for them, but no matter what OS you're on the desktop client is probably crappier than loading up the webpage, with the one upside of giving you a separate icon in the dock and app switcher. Even with the performance improved, the "stuff the whole app in one web view" implementation is still showing. Clearly this isn't an Electron limitation; VS Code handles multiple windows just as well as any other text editor. Slack's desktop client is basically "It's a web browser except worse and with the URL bar hidden." Since chat requires an internet connection and it's not like Slack's desktop version launches particularly fast, I'm not sure that it does anything better than using a browser. We'll see if they support multiple instances on iOS 13. If they do, maybe we can get a Mac version based on that for something closer to native desktop behavior.
- _bxg1 7y ago
  > no matter what OS you're on the desktop client is probably crappier than loading up the webpage I don't see how it could ever be worse than the webpage. And it gives you nice perks like notification badge integration, which for me personally is essential.
  - wlesieutre 7y ago
    My web browser has windows and tabs and lets me open Slack in multiple places if I want to see more than one view of Slack at the same time. I usually don't need to do that, but when I do it's annoying that the desktop client prevents it. It's fine that my phone doesn't let me open two text conversations at once since that's all the space it has, but on a computer with a 24+ inch screen and multiple virtual desktop spaces with different sets of tasks, it's a pointless limitation.
    - wlesieutre 7y ago
      For reference - the saddest little File menu https://i.imgur.com/YPoCmbR.png https://i.imgur.com/YPoCmbR.png