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Has anyone built an electric car that has no network connectivity? That is the barrier to entry for me. I will not buy one that can talk to any network outsid
by LinuxBender 7y ago
Has anyone built an electric car that has no network connectivity? That is the barrier to entry for me. I will not buy one that can talk to any network outside of the physical vehicle.
- tastygreenapple 7y agoThe Nissan Leaf, and the Mitsubishi i-MIEV come to mind.
- LinuxBender 7y agoThankyou I will check those out.
- m463 7y agoThe nissan leaf has "telematics". That said, you can physically unplug it.
- Tagbert 7y agoThe gen 1 LEAF I had did have some minimal wireless connectivity. It did allow remotely starting the heater/cooler among other things. However, it used a 2G modem and those networks are mostly shut down now so it would be unable to connect anymore. I expect that the current one uses LTE for its wireless, now. What is the nature of your concern?
- mikestew 7y agoParent can buy ours, which has had the GPRS modem removed by the dealer. I figured if they're turning the towers off, and Nissan would remove the radio for free, might as well remove a threat surface. Point being, even if a first-gen Leaf still has the cell radio, there's nothing for it to connect to. AT&T turned all that off, and maybe Nissan quit listening even if AT&T left it on. That, and CarWings was useless. It was quicker to walk out to the garage and turn the heat on than it was to use the app.
- LinuxBender 7y agoI still have some life left on my current vehicle, but I appreciate the extra information. I suspect most of the electric cars have some aspect of network connectivity.
- Gibbon1 7y agoMy two thoughts, it's not just electric cars that have tracking spying capability, it's most new models. Especially higher end ones. What I think is the number of new electric car models will increase dramatically in the next two years. At some point as battery prices drop EV's will hit price parity with gasoline/diesel cars. I'd expect you then see more bare bones cars, which are less likely to have tracking.
- LinuxBender 7y agoI don't want remote surveillance or control of the vehicle, otherwise it isn't my vehicle. My coworkers and I also hack into things that are said to be impossible to hack in to, so I never accept the word of a vendor.
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- Kirby64 7y agoTesla offers an 'off-menu' option where they can not install a SIM card for you. The only network connectivity left at that point would be the wifi, which you can just choose to not connect to.
- perilunar 7y agoEVs need an 'airplane mode'. Not just so you can avoid being surveilled, but also so you can visit areas that require radio silence e.g. radio telescopes — I was thinking of visiting Parkes Observatory recently and realised it would not be possible if I drove a Tesla.
- brokenmachine 7y agoAre there fences stopping you entering Parkes with a Tesla?
- perilunar 7y agoNo, it's not physically impossible, but all devices must be switched to airplane/flight mode.