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>Personally, whenever I’m flying economy, I’ve mastered the art of simply shutting down any expectation I have of comfort from the moment I arrive in the airpor

by magduf 7y ago

>Personally, whenever I’m flying economy, I’ve mastered the art of simply shutting down any expectation I have of comfort from the moment I arrive in the airport, until I arrive at my destination. Sounds like you've never flown on an Asian airline. I flew on Singapore Airlines a few months ago and economy there was like first-class on an American airline, but with smaller seats.

chrisseaton 7y ago
> I flew on Singapore Airlines a few months ago and economy there was like first-class on an American airline, but with smaller seats. With flat beds and everything? How can they possibly afford that?
- magduf 7y ago
  Perhaps I should say business class. Anyway, I'm talking about the level of service and comfort: great meals, blankets, pillows, beautiful and friendly flight attendants, hot handtowels, free wine/beer, even some warm socks for wearing to the bathroom, are all standard in economy class. Several of these are probably not even available in First Class on American carriers, such as the handtowel or socks or free alcohol.
  - chrisseaton 7y ago
    > Several of these are probably not even available in First Class on American carriers, such as the handtowel or socks or free alcohol. I think you must have an atypical experience of US business or first. Towels, socks, free alcohol are all basics on US carriers that you always get in business or first. Free alcohol is available even in economy on every US carrier I’ve been on.
    - magduf 7y ago
      >Free alcohol is available even in economy on every US carrier I’ve been on. Citation needed. >>such as the handtowel or socks or free alcohol. >Towels, socks, free alcohol are all basics on US carriers that you always get in business or first. No, I'm not talking about towels, I'm talking about a handtowel. It doesn't exist on US planes, because it's an Asian custom. It's a hot, wet towel that they hand out to everyone before every meal so you can wipe your hands. It's called an oshibori in Japanese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshibori https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshibori https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/22372/in-asian-restaurants-and-airlines-is-it-correct-etiquette-to-use-the-hot-towel-o https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/22372/in-asian-re...
      - chrisseaton 7y ago
        > Citation needed. https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/economy/default.aspx https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/eco... "Complimentary house beer and wines, soft drinks, juices, tea and freshly brewed illy coffee" That's in economy. > It doesn't exist on US planes, because it's an Asian custom. It's a hot, wet towel that they hand out to everyone before every meal so you can wipe your hands. Yes, hot wet towels. You get them before meals on US carriers as well. Here's a video of them being handed out in economy on a domestic US flight. https://youtu.be/KzUyCxFLQP8?t=85 https://youtu.be/KzUyCxFLQP8?t=85 Believe me now?
        magduf 7y ago
        No, I don't. Why are you lying to me? I looked at your own link for United, and this is what I found: "Beer, wine and spirits available for purchase on all flights" Again, why are you lying to me? It's right there in your own link. Your quote is only for international flights, where of course they're trying to compete with the other international carriers so they change the rules. I'm not talking only about international flights, I'm talking about domestic vs. international carriers, and domestic carriers, on domestic flights, do NOT offer free alcoholic drinks. Of course, I can't compare non-American carriers for domestic flights because American carriers have a government-granted cartel on domestic flights, but I can still compare domestic vs. international carriers' economy services. >Yes, hot wet towels. You get them before meals on US carriers as well That's total bullshit. I've flown domestically countless times, over decades, and have never seen this before. Just look at the comments in the video: this is not normal service, and people are commenting this way because they've never seen it either. Why are you trying so hard to defend American carriers anyway? Do you work for one of them?
        chrisseaton 7y ago
        You're moving the goal posts. Why are you now saying you're only talking about domestic? You didn't say that before. > Why are you trying so hard to defend American carriers anyway? Just resisting your aggressive denial of what I know to be true and accusations that I'm lying (about hot towels, for some reason)! I don't know what parallel universe you're living in but I know what I've seen. > Do you work for one of them? No.
AmericanChopper 7y ago
It’s probably the airline I’ve flown on the most. The flight attendants are nice, and you get a little ammenities bag. But none of that changes the fact that you’re packed into an economy class seat for x hours. The food is honestly not any better that other full service airlines either. Honestly, I have no idea where you’re getting this from. There’s certainly economy classes out there worse than SG, but to compare it to any first class experience is complete nonsense.

by magduf 7y ago

chrisseaton 7y ago

> I flew on Singapore Airlines a few months ago and economy there was like first-class on an American airline, but with smaller seats. With flat beds and everything? How can they possibly afford that?

magduf 7y ago
Perhaps I should say business class. Anyway, I'm talking about the level of service and comfort: great meals, blankets, pillows, beautiful and friendly flight attendants, hot handtowels, free wine/beer, even some warm socks for wearing to the bathroom, are all standard in economy class. Several of these are probably not even available in First Class on American carriers, such as the handtowel or socks or free alcohol.
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  > Several of these are probably not even available in First Class on American carriers, such as the handtowel or socks or free alcohol. I think you must have an atypical experience of US business or first. Towels, socks, free alcohol are all basics on US carriers that you always get in business or first. Free alcohol is available even in economy on every US carrier I’ve been on.
  - magduf 7y ago
    >Free alcohol is available even in economy on every US carrier I’ve been on. Citation needed. >>such as the handtowel or socks or free alcohol. >Towels, socks, free alcohol are all basics on US carriers that you always get in business or first. No, I'm not talking about towels, I'm talking about a handtowel. It doesn't exist on US planes, because it's an Asian custom. It's a hot, wet towel that they hand out to everyone before every meal so you can wipe your hands. It's called an oshibori in Japanese: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshibori https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oshibori https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/22372/in-asian-restaurants-and-airlines-is-it-correct-etiquette-to-use-the-hot-towel-o https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/22372/in-asian-re...
    - chrisseaton 7y ago
      > Citation needed. https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/economy/default.aspx https://www.united.com/web/en-US/content/travel/inflight/eco... "Complimentary house beer and wines, soft drinks, juices, tea and freshly brewed illy coffee" That's in economy. > It doesn't exist on US planes, because it's an Asian custom. It's a hot, wet towel that they hand out to everyone before every meal so you can wipe your hands. Yes, hot wet towels. You get them before meals on US carriers as well. Here's a video of them being handed out in economy on a domestic US flight. https://youtu.be/KzUyCxFLQP8?t=85 https://youtu.be/KzUyCxFLQP8?t=85 Believe me now?
      - magduf 7y ago
        No, I don't. Why are you lying to me? I looked at your own link for United, and this is what I found: "Beer, wine and spirits available for purchase on all flights" Again, why are you lying to me? It's right there in your own link. Your quote is only for international flights, where of course they're trying to compete with the other international carriers so they change the rules. I'm not talking only about international flights, I'm talking about domestic vs. international carriers, and domestic carriers, on domestic flights, do NOT offer free alcoholic drinks. Of course, I can't compare non-American carriers for domestic flights because American carriers have a government-granted cartel on domestic flights, but I can still compare domestic vs. international carriers' economy services. >Yes, hot wet towels. You get them before meals on US carriers as well That's total bullshit. I've flown domestically countless times, over decades, and have never seen this before. Just look at the comments in the video: this is not normal service, and people are commenting this way because they've never seen it either. Why are you trying so hard to defend American carriers anyway? Do you work for one of them?
        chrisseaton 7y ago
        You're moving the goal posts. Why are you now saying you're only talking about domestic? You didn't say that before. > Why are you trying so hard to defend American carriers anyway? Just resisting your aggressive denial of what I know to be true and accusations that I'm lying (about hot towels, for some reason)! I don't know what parallel universe you're living in but I know what I've seen. > Do you work for one of them? No.

AmericanChopper 7y ago

It’s probably the airline I’ve flown on the most. The flight attendants are nice, and you get a little ammenities bag. But none of that changes the fact that you’re packed into an economy class seat for x hours. The food is honestly not any better that other full service airlines either. Honestly, I have no idea where you’re getting this from. There’s certainly economy classes out there worse than SG, but to compare it to any first class experience is complete nonsense.