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Every US companies must block Iran, it's not Google it's everyone. https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/programs/pages/iran.aspx https://www.trea

by Thaxll 7y ago

Every US companies must block Iran, it's not Google it's everyone. https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/programs/pages/iran.aspx https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/sanctions/programs/... https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Sanctions/Pages/faq_iran.aspx#630 https://www.treasury.gov/resource-center/faqs/Sanctions/Page... 630. Is the provision or delivery of goods or services to an Iranian counterparty after November 4, 2018 allowed? The wind-down period has ended and the United States intends to fully enforce the sanctions that have come back into effect. The provision or delivery of goods or services and/or the extension of additional loans or credits to an Iranian counterparty after November 4, 2018 — even pursuant to written contracts or written agreements entered into prior to May 8, 2018 — may result in the imposition of U.S. sanctions unless such activities are exempt from regulation, authorized by OFAC, or otherwise not sanctionable.

devoply 7y ago
Canada too.
smnrchrds 7y ago
> Every US companies must block Iran, This does not seem correct. Here is a short non-comprehensive list of services by US companies not blocked in Iran. The list is big enough, and the companies involved large and legally-savvy enough, that this cannot be an oversight. * Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Outlook * Google Maps, Waze (quite popular right now in Iran too!) * Google Drive, Dropbox, OneDrive * Github * Google Keep * Google Docs, Zoho * ... The complete list would be hundreds or thousands of pages long. Based on this, I don't think your assertion is correct. Either that, or every big US company is breaking sanctions on Iran with impunity. That does not seem plausible.
- Thaxll 7y ago
  I don't know what are the details but I worked for a major company and they didn't even try to see if the service was against embargo they just blocked it. Gmail might not be blocked but can you create an email?
  - miracle2k 7y ago
    Yes, you can create an email. The fact that your company "did not even bother to check" is a poor argument for "everyone has to do it".
    - Thaxll 7y ago
      They probably did checked but it was most likely complicated / subject to various limitations and with all those complications they decided to not provide services, like most US companies, that was pre 2018. When a county is under embargo it's more complicated that just checking a website from the comfort of your chair, I remember many Iranians complaining about that but the chance that you're infringing some rules could lead to very very serious / expensive sanctions ( with DoJ / DoT ) it's just not worth it. http://techland.time.com/2012/08/29/world-of-warcraft-blocked-in-iran-blizzard-unexpectedly-explains-why/ http://techland.time.com/2012/08/29/world-of-warcraft-blocke...
- unmole 7y ago
  Zoho is Indian, not American.
- azernik 7y ago
  Waze is Israeli. Which is actually more interesting.
  - jefftk 7y ago
    Google bought Waze in 2013.
    - azernik 7y ago
      All their jobs are still in Tel Aviv, and the subsidiary is likely still registered in Israel.
      - luckylion 7y ago
        Would that matter? I don't believe you can work around government sanctions by simply registering a subsidiary in another jurisdiction and saying "look, the company isn't officially in the US, even though it's owned by us".
        azernik 7y ago
        No, but it indicates that it's also subject to Israeli restrictions.
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by Thaxll 7y ago

devoply 7y ago

Canada too.

smnrchrds 7y ago

> Every US companies must block Iran, This does not seem correct. Here is a short non-comprehensive list of services by US companies not blocked in Iran. The list is big enough, and the companies involved large and legally-savvy enough, that this cannot be an oversight. * Gmail, Yahoo Mail, Outlook * Google Maps, Waze (quite popular right now in Iran too!) * Google Drive, Dropbox, OneDrive * Github * Google Keep * Google Docs, Zoho * ... The complete list would be hundreds or thousands of pages long. Based on this, I don't think your assertion is correct. Either that, or every big US company is breaking sanctions on Iran with impunity. That does not seem plausible.

Thaxll 7y ago
I don't know what are the details but I worked for a major company and they didn't even try to see if the service was against embargo they just blocked it. Gmail might not be blocked but can you create an email?
- miracle2k 7y ago
  Yes, you can create an email. The fact that your company "did not even bother to check" is a poor argument for "everyone has to do it".
  - Thaxll 7y ago
    They probably did checked but it was most likely complicated / subject to various limitations and with all those complications they decided to not provide services, like most US companies, that was pre 2018. When a county is under embargo it's more complicated that just checking a website from the comfort of your chair, I remember many Iranians complaining about that but the chance that you're infringing some rules could lead to very very serious / expensive sanctions ( with DoJ / DoT ) it's just not worth it. http://techland.time.com/2012/08/29/world-of-warcraft-blocked-in-iran-blizzard-unexpectedly-explains-why/ http://techland.time.com/2012/08/29/world-of-warcraft-blocke...
unmole 7y ago
Zoho is Indian, not American.
azernik 7y ago
Waze is Israeli. Which is actually more interesting.
- jefftk 7y ago
  Google bought Waze in 2013.
  - azernik 7y ago
    All their jobs are still in Tel Aviv, and the subsidiary is likely still registered in Israel.
    - luckylion 7y ago
      Would that matter? I don't believe you can work around government sanctions by simply registering a subsidiary in another jurisdiction and saying "look, the company isn't officially in the US, even though it's owned by us".
      - azernik 7y ago
        No, but it indicates that it's also subject to Israeli restrictions.

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