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I suppose you're not allowed to express your opinion here without being penalized. Personally, I find this comic to be completely awful, and the drawings absolu
by code_duck 16y ago
I suppose you're not allowed to express your opinion here without being penalized. Personally, I find this comic to be completely awful, and the drawings absolutely hideous - offensively stupid in a way that could not be exceeded even intentionally. But then, people defend Justin Bieber, too. We're not here to discuss that though.
The focus of the HN crowd is going to be on how he obtained his high level of (financial!) success. To me, it's yet another lesson that mediocrity and lack of talent are no barriers to success. Other factors such as persistence, marketing savvy, funding, connections and lack of any shame about self promotion (this guy practically spammed the hell out of Reddit and Digg 2008-2009) can take you very far.
- BrandonM 16y agoAnother lesson is to avoid saying amazingly haughty things like, "clever only to people of pedestrian intelligence." Metacommentary is annoying, but here goes. His comment was downvoted because it was demeaning without furthering the discussion much. I considered downvoting your comment because it insultingly misstates the reason for members' downvotes when the actual reason is pretty obvious; I actually voted up your comment (since it was down to -1) in spite of that and its defeatist tone because it still made an interesting point.
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- code_duck 16y agoThis has to be the most useless line of comments I've see on HN in a long time.
- stcredzero 16y agoActually, there's a very useful analogy and lesson for startup folks.
- natep 16y agoI see lots of discussion prompted by stcredzero's comment (11 replies, including this one and the 2 deleted ones). How again did it not further the discussion?
- stcredzero 16y agoAnother lesson is to avoid saying amazingly haughty things like, "clever only to people of pedestrian intelligence." The lesson I've received, after sparking all this discussion, getting voted down, then back up again, is that it pays off in the end to be open and genuine.
- megablast 16y agoI have a problem with people who seem to be so passionate about stuff they hate. You use the example of Justin Bieber, who my niece quite likes, but loads of people do not. I tend to ignore the things that have no effect on me, and I do not like. Other people feel the need to attack such things. They are the ones with the problem. If you do not like something, why bother wasting your time commenting on it. Sure, if it is something that affects you, like your government or road rules, go ahead. If it is something you can ignore, then YOU are being the fool.
- nothankssir 16y agoMany people view it as a success when they create something that invokes a strong emotional response both for and against their creation. It strikes me as strange that what many creators view as a great success you view as some sort of flaw in the minds of those who have been affected by the work.
- BrandonM 16y agoI agree with your "foolish" comment :)
- code_duck 16y agoI'm not concerned with Justin Bieber or Oatmeal specifically. Personally I'm interested in, and disappointed by, the phenomenon of people with no musical talent being successful musicians, and humorists with no discernible wit or drawing skill being successful comic artists. The problem is not the people who are successful - the problem is with the audience. To each their own, but you don't really like something like Justin Bieber as a musical taste. People think you like it because they have too little experience with real music, and it is marketed very heavily.