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this is still a great idea... even with clips, dating apps are so static. body language, tonality.

fortran77 7y ago
I think there would be a market for a "verified weight / height / photo" dating site. Maybe have kiosks set up where people can go get a photo taken, on a scale, with a height gauge behind them from standard angles (front / side) -- to avoid the infamous "myspace angles" that people use.
- creatornator 7y ago
  If the first action in a relationship is one of distrust, it doesn't feel right...
  - TeMPOraL 7y ago
    Interactions on dating sites happen prior to a relationship. Also, I think dating sites are a bit "a market for lemons".
    - TheDong 7y ago
      I don't think that's necessarily true. To be a market for lemons, in the original sense, it's required that goods are objectively better or worse to all buyers, and it's required that sellers know the value of their goods to buyers. Put more concretely, because different people have different dating preferences, one person's lemon can be another person's peach. In addition, a market for lemons usually requires a seller to be able to determine the value of goods while the buyer can't. On dating sites, both the user and the site itself are trying to "sell" that person to prospective matches. Neither of those parties has all that much better of a way to determine a person's match-ability, so there's not all that much asymmetry. I suppose the site does know a little more based on history, but I don't think that's necessarily enough. I do think dating sites are pretty garbage, but I don't think it's due to the phenomenon described by "a market for lemons", but rather due to multiple other factors.
      - TeMPOraL 7y ago
        Fair. WRT. lemons, I was thinking primarily about the aspect that the most desirable people disappear from these sites first. Sure people have different dating preferences, but they're correlated, not uniformly random. I believe that, while there may not be a total order of people that's the same for everyone, there is some rough order that would be acceptable to most, and the closer to "best" end in that order a person is, the shorter they're likely to stay on a dating site.
      - J-dawg 7y ago
        > one person's lemon can be another person's peach That's a nice way of looking at the world, and of course it's true sometimes. But...hasn't all the data coming out of dating sites kind of proved the opposite? Especially for men, something like the top 10-20% are getting basically all the matches and messages.
        taejo 7y ago
        At least to some extent, dating sites have made the opposite. The more people know about each other, the greater the variance in their assessments of each others' attractiveness. ISTR a study that showed that the less people know each other before starting dating, the more likely people are to end up with partners who are about as physically attractive as themselves.
        J-dawg 7y ago
        This is a good point. I guess it's important to remember that dating sites do actually change people's behaviour, rather than being a representation of how everyone behaves.
      - lmm 7y ago
        > In addition, a market for lemons usually requires a seller to be able to determine the value of goods while the buyer can't. On dating sites, both the user and the site itself are trying to "sell" that person to prospective matches. Neither of those parties has all that much better of a way to determine a person's match-ability, so there's not all that much asymmetry. Well, the person posting their height/weight/photo knows whether it's accurate or not, whereas the person reading it doesn't; that's your asymmetry right there.
  - fortran77 7y ago
    People have a right to an "affectional preference" based on physical characteristics. What I propose doesn't discriminate against any body type or characteristic, it merely ensures accuracy.
    - jdnenej 7y ago
      It just amplifies the fact that current online dating is about looks alone. The chad fishing memes prove it well.
      - fortran77 7y ago
        Well, if you can't or won't compete on looks and you don't have any preference of your own, then perhaps on-line dating isn't for you.
        jdnenej 7y ago
        So if you aren't the tallest person around then you don't deserve to have a relationship?
        fortran77 7y ago
        No, not at all. But you have to find a partner that likes you for the height you are. Are you saying that short people should lie about their height and hope they can convince someone who's met them to change their affectational preference? "Conversion therapy" doesn't work. If someone is only attracted to tall people, you can't change them.
        taejo 7y ago
        Not at all. But maybe an app which asks potential dates to swipe left or right having just seen your height is not the best venue for short men.
- devit 7y ago
  Some people might like that, but in general I think what would be really needed is some way of doing online dating without pictures, since focus on appearance is unlikely to be effective at achieving long-term fulfillment (both if pursuing a single/few long-term relationships or regular one-off encounters).
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
  Yeah, because when I look at all the problems with online dating, what I think is that it could all be solved if only people would treat eachother even more like commodities.
- lowdose 7y ago
  Verified blue whale badge on profile.
vidyesh 7y ago
This is how dating agencies used to. They would ask their clients to come in and shoot a small intro video which they would use as their bio/profile to prospective matches. Actor Bryan Cranston used to work in one of those agencies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsEPGc72Iuk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsEPGc72Iuk

I think there would be a market for a "verified weight / height / photo" dating site. Maybe have kiosks set up where people can go get a photo taken, on a scale, with a height gauge behind them from standard angles (front / side) -- to avoid the infamous "myspace angles" that people use.

creatornator 7y ago
If the first action in a relationship is one of distrust, it doesn't feel right...
- TeMPOraL 7y ago
  Interactions on dating sites happen prior to a relationship. Also, I think dating sites are a bit "a market for lemons".
  - TheDong 7y ago
    I don't think that's necessarily true. To be a market for lemons, in the original sense, it's required that goods are objectively better or worse to all buyers, and it's required that sellers know the value of their goods to buyers. Put more concretely, because different people have different dating preferences, one person's lemon can be another person's peach. In addition, a market for lemons usually requires a seller to be able to determine the value of goods while the buyer can't. On dating sites, both the user and the site itself are trying to "sell" that person to prospective matches. Neither of those parties has all that much better of a way to determine a person's match-ability, so there's not all that much asymmetry. I suppose the site does know a little more based on history, but I don't think that's necessarily enough. I do think dating sites are pretty garbage, but I don't think it's due to the phenomenon described by "a market for lemons", but rather due to multiple other factors.
    - TeMPOraL 7y ago
      Fair. WRT. lemons, I was thinking primarily about the aspect that the most desirable people disappear from these sites first. Sure people have different dating preferences, but they're correlated, not uniformly random. I believe that, while there may not be a total order of people that's the same for everyone, there is some rough order that would be acceptable to most, and the closer to "best" end in that order a person is, the shorter they're likely to stay on a dating site.
    - J-dawg 7y ago
      > one person's lemon can be another person's peach That's a nice way of looking at the world, and of course it's true sometimes. But...hasn't all the data coming out of dating sites kind of proved the opposite? Especially for men, something like the top 10-20% are getting basically all the matches and messages.
      - taejo 7y ago
        At least to some extent, dating sites have made the opposite. The more people know about each other, the greater the variance in their assessments of each others' attractiveness. ISTR a study that showed that the less people know each other before starting dating, the more likely people are to end up with partners who are about as physically attractive as themselves.
        J-dawg 7y ago
        This is a good point. I guess it's important to remember that dating sites do actually change people's behaviour, rather than being a representation of how everyone behaves.
    - lmm 7y ago
      > In addition, a market for lemons usually requires a seller to be able to determine the value of goods while the buyer can't. On dating sites, both the user and the site itself are trying to "sell" that person to prospective matches. Neither of those parties has all that much better of a way to determine a person's match-ability, so there's not all that much asymmetry. Well, the person posting their height/weight/photo knows whether it's accurate or not, whereas the person reading it doesn't; that's your asymmetry right there.
- fortran77 7y ago
  People have a right to an "affectional preference" based on physical characteristics. What I propose doesn't discriminate against any body type or characteristic, it merely ensures accuracy.
  - jdnenej 7y ago
    It just amplifies the fact that current online dating is about looks alone. The chad fishing memes prove it well.
    - fortran77 7y ago
      Well, if you can't or won't compete on looks and you don't have any preference of your own, then perhaps on-line dating isn't for you.
      - jdnenej 7y ago
        So if you aren't the tallest person around then you don't deserve to have a relationship?
        fortran77 7y ago
        No, not at all. But you have to find a partner that likes you for the height you are. Are you saying that short people should lie about their height and hope they can convince someone who's met them to change their affectational preference? "Conversion therapy" doesn't work. If someone is only attracted to tall people, you can't change them.
        taejo 7y ago
        Not at all. But maybe an app which asks potential dates to swipe left or right having just seen your height is not the best venue for short men.
devit 7y ago
Some people might like that, but in general I think what would be really needed is some way of doing online dating without pictures, since focus on appearance is unlikely to be effective at achieving long-term fulfillment (both if pursuing a single/few long-term relationships or regular one-off encounters).
AnIdiotOnTheNet 7y ago
Yeah, because when I look at all the problems with online dating, what I think is that it could all be solved if only people would treat eachother even more like commodities.
lowdose 7y ago
Verified blue whale badge on profile.

vidyesh 7y ago

This is how dating agencies used to. They would ask their clients to come in and shoot a small intro video which they would use as their bio/profile to prospective matches. Actor Bryan Cranston used to work in one of those agencies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsEPGc72Iuk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZsEPGc72Iuk