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Anyone know how GDPR would handle fining a country? 4% of GNP would be hefty.

by runeb 7y ago

bobthechef 7y ago
I do wonder whom that would hurt more to do so. The taxpayer or the kleptocrats in power? Ultimately, we want the right heads to roll and we want it to sting like hell.
luckylion 7y ago
Since Bulgaria's privacy officials would be in charge, any penalty they'd dole out would be paid by the state to the state.
IAmEveryone 7y ago
I know you're just trying to exploit the somewhat widespread cynicism and accusations of hypocriticism for humor, but that just isn't how it works. While fines are routinely used against citizen, companies, and other private entities to force compliance with the law, the absence of fines in the relationship between courts and the executive quite obviously does not imply that the government is free to ignore the law. This should be obvious, considering there are lawsuits against the government in the news every week. Fines are simply not necessary because public servants are duty-bound to follow court orders. In modern democracies, this is not just theory. Ignoring a court's order is virtually unheard of. It would be a major breech of the rule of law, a tenet more central to democracy than even voting. I wouldn't want to see what happens, although the risk has certainly risen in the last, say, two years, at least in the US.
- peshooo 7y ago
  > In modern democracies, this is not just theory. Ignoring a court's order is virtually unheard of. This might be true for the older/western democracies. Sadly this is not the case in Easter Europe. As we say in Bulgaria - the law is a door in a field. You can go around if you want.
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based2 7y ago
https://www.yahoo.com/news/cyber-expert-charged-huge-bulgarian-163808446.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/cyber-expert-charged-huge-bulgari... The tax agency is facing a fine of up to 20 million euros ($22.5 million) over the breach.
- daurnimator 7y ago
  With the fine going where? Probably to general treasury; which the tax office is essentially free to withdraw from.
buboard 7y ago
nothing. The state pays itself, it s just 2 records in balance sheets canceling out

Anyone know how GDPR would handle fining a country? 4% of GNP would be hefty.

by runeb 7y ago

Anyone know how GDPR would handle fining a country? 4% of GNP would be hefty.

I do wonder whom that would hurt more to do so. The taxpayer or the kleptocrats in power? Ultimately, we want the right heads to roll and we want it to sting like hell.

luckylion 7y ago

Since Bulgaria's privacy officials would be in charge, any penalty they'd dole out would be paid by the state to the state.

IAmEveryone 7y ago

I know you're just trying to exploit the somewhat widespread cynicism and accusations of hypocriticism for humor, but that just isn't how it works. While fines are routinely used against citizen, companies, and other private entities to force compliance with the law, the absence of fines in the relationship between courts and the executive quite obviously does not imply that the government is free to ignore the law. This should be obvious, considering there are lawsuits against the government in the news every week. Fines are simply not necessary because public servants are duty-bound to follow court orders. In modern democracies, this is not just theory. Ignoring a court's order is virtually unheard of. It would be a major breech of the rule of law, a tenet more central to democracy than even voting. I wouldn't want to see what happens, although the risk has certainly risen in the last, say, two years, at least in the US.

peshooo 7y ago
> In modern democracies, this is not just theory. Ignoring a court's order is virtually unheard of. This might be true for the older/western democracies. Sadly this is not the case in Easter Europe. As we say in Bulgaria - the law is a door in a field. You can go around if you want.
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based2 7y ago

https://www.yahoo.com/news/cyber-expert-charged-huge-bulgarian-163808446.html https://www.yahoo.com/news/cyber-expert-charged-huge-bulgari... The tax agency is facing a fine of up to 20 million euros ($22.5 million) over the breach.

daurnimator 7y ago
With the fine going where? Probably to general treasury; which the tax office is essentially free to withdraw from.

buboard 7y ago

nothing. The state pays itself, it s just 2 records in balance sheets canceling out