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Why don't we have government relay services for websites? What is the functional equivalent to a picture of food? If this opportunistic enforcement-for-profit

by gowld 7y ago

Why don't we have government relay services for websites? What is the functional equivalent to a picture of food? If this opportunistic enforcement-for-profit goes unchecked, and business and the public discover that the ADA bans providing any services that rely on vision, hearing, or limbs, the ADA won't last long. Having a disability sucks. Not all disabilities are curable. Banning the use of abilities is not a solution that will be tolerated.

cco 7y ago
A description of the food, is this a gotcha?
ncallaway 7y ago
> Banning the use of abilities is not a solution that will be tolerated. I can’t think of any serious proposal ever during the fight for accessibility where this was proposed or seriously considered as an option. Wheelchair cuts in sidewalks don’t prevent you from stepping on the curb. Elevators to spaces that are otherwise only accessible via stairs don’t remove the stairs. Ensuring a website works well with assistive software doesn’t mean the website can’t work for users that don’t need assistive software. Where does this concern come from? What proposal are you worried about where we would ban the use of abilities, or what percent in the application of the ADA do you think warrants this concern?
michaelmrose 7y ago
>Why don't we have government relay services for websites? This is like doing away with wheelchair ramps and replacing it with government employees who will show up and carry the wheelchair up stairs. Firstly it shifts the burden from the business to providing websites the impaired can use to all of us and it does so in a way that multiplies the costs in a virtually unbounded fashion. Instead of a business doing the work once we will be expected to open our wallets every time and forever when someone wants to do something on the web where a rapidly increasing share of all business is done. >What is the functional equivalent to a picture of food? A well crafted textual description of said food which many times is already somewhere below said food anyway?

by gowld 7y ago

cco 7y ago

A description of the food, is this a gotcha?

ncallaway 7y ago

> Banning the use of abilities is not a solution that will be tolerated. I can’t think of any serious proposal ever during the fight for accessibility where this was proposed or seriously considered as an option. Wheelchair cuts in sidewalks don’t prevent you from stepping on the curb. Elevators to spaces that are otherwise only accessible via stairs don’t remove the stairs. Ensuring a website works well with assistive software doesn’t mean the website can’t work for users that don’t need assistive software. Where does this concern come from? What proposal are you worried about where we would ban the use of abilities, or what percent in the application of the ADA do you think warrants this concern?

michaelmrose 7y ago

>Why don't we have government relay services for websites? This is like doing away with wheelchair ramps and replacing it with government employees who will show up and carry the wheelchair up stairs. Firstly it shifts the burden from the business to providing websites the impaired can use to all of us and it does so in a way that multiplies the costs in a virtually unbounded fashion. Instead of a business doing the work once we will be expected to open our wallets every time and forever when someone wants to do something on the web where a rapidly increasing share of all business is done. >What is the functional equivalent to a picture of food? A well crafted textual description of said food which many times is already somewhere below said food anyway?