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>ICE have been detaining and deporting legal aliens. How does a legal alien get deported when there are literally millions of illegal aliens? Mistaken identity

>ICE have been detaining and deporting legal aliens. How does a legal alien get deported when there are literally millions of illegal aliens? Mistaken identity? Do you know how many wrongful deportations there are?

siphon22 7y ago
As a legal resident, that's basically why I feel pretty confident in my green card. What the fuck kind of priorities does ICE have if they are messing with people who actually have documents and are here rightfully while there's actual illegals roaming around? Also, the fact that I live in SoCal, makes me feel pretty safe somehow. :)
fzeroracer 7y ago
Visibility, for one. Legal aliens are likely more confident in their chances to not be deported (and in the past, for rightful reasons), which makes them low hanging fruit for ICE which generally has zero accountability [1]. This can be for reasons like having a conviction within the past few decades or for more nebulous reasons. Even if you successfully fight deportation, you're still dealing with potentially being jailed and taken away from your life for no reason [2]. [1] https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lawful-resident-20180628-htmlstory.html https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lawful-resident... [2] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kansas-professor-who-facing-deportation-freed-jail-n858356 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kansas-professor-who-fa...
geofft 7y ago
Because they're not white. I mean this in all seriousness, and it's unfortunate that it's such a flamey argument, but you can see them doing things like questioning the birth certificates of people just on the Texas side of the border that, as you argue, make no sense if your goal is simply to go after people you already know beyond a doubt are here illegally, of which there is no shortage. (Apparently one of the things they look at is baptismal records, on the grounds that there are allegedly people who live on the Mexico side of the border who get a false birth certificate from the US somehow. As a US-born child of Indian immigrants, who was baptized in India so my extended family could be there, this actually has me personally worried a little bit. I don't know how I could prove my citizenship if they questioned the validity of my birth certificate and therefore my passport....) To your question of how many, https://jacquelinestevens.org/US-Unlawfully-Detaining.StevensVSP18.32011.pdf https://jacquelinestevens.org/US-Unlawfully-Detaining.Steven... says, "Recent data suggests that in 2010 well over 4,000 U.S. citizens were detained or deported as aliens, raising the total since 2003 to more than 20,000." (And that's well before Trump, for the record!)

siphon22 7y ago

As a legal resident, that's basically why I feel pretty confident in my green card. What the fuck kind of priorities does ICE have if they are messing with people who actually have documents and are here rightfully while there's actual illegals roaming around? Also, the fact that I live in SoCal, makes me feel pretty safe somehow. :)

fzeroracer 7y ago

Visibility, for one. Legal aliens are likely more confident in their chances to not be deported (and in the past, for rightful reasons), which makes them low hanging fruit for ICE which generally has zero accountability [1]. This can be for reasons like having a conviction within the past few decades or for more nebulous reasons. Even if you successfully fight deportation, you're still dealing with potentially being jailed and taken away from your life for no reason [2]. [1] https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lawful-resident-20180628-htmlstory.html https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-lawful-resident... [2] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kansas-professor-who-facing-deportation-freed-jail-n858356 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kansas-professor-who-fa...

geofft 7y ago

Because they're not white. I mean this in all seriousness, and it's unfortunate that it's such a flamey argument, but you can see them doing things like questioning the birth certificates of people just on the Texas side of the border that, as you argue, make no sense if your goal is simply to go after people you already know beyond a doubt are here illegally, of which there is no shortage. (Apparently one of the things they look at is baptismal records, on the grounds that there are allegedly people who live on the Mexico side of the border who get a false birth certificate from the US somehow. As a US-born child of Indian immigrants, who was baptized in India so my extended family could be there, this actually has me personally worried a little bit. I don't know how I could prove my citizenship if they questioned the validity of my birth certificate and therefore my passport....) To your question of how many, https://jacquelinestevens.org/US-Unlawfully-Detaining.StevensVSP18.32011.pdf https://jacquelinestevens.org/US-Unlawfully-Detaining.Steven... says, "Recent data suggests that in 2010 well over 4,000 U.S. citizens were detained or deported as aliens, raising the total since 2003 to more than 20,000." (And that's well before Trump, for the record!)