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I'd like to read more. Links?

by donw 7y ago

asveikau 7y ago
I read these stories over the last few years as they appeared in the press, so I don't have them handy, and your google-fu is as good as mine. Here are a few that came up in a search. https://www.npr.org/2018/08/30/643218390/report-u-s-denies-passports-and-questions-americans-birth-certificates https://www.npr.org/2018/08/30/643218390/report-u-s-denies-p... https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/396923-trump-administration-now-has-naturalized-citizens-in-its-sights https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/396923-trump-adminis... -- opinion piece citing this: http://apnews.com/1da389a535684a5f9d0da74081c242f3 http://apnews.com/1da389a535684a5f9d0da74081c242f3 https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686188335/ice-tried-to-deport-this-u-s-citizen-and-marine-veteran https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686188335/ice-tried-to-deport... Then of course there was the widely reported fact that the travel ban initially intentionally affected people with valid visas, green cards, and dual citizenship. The short version is if you are legally in this country (either by visa, green card, naturalization or native birth) but have any reason to think somebody would ever believe you might not be (perhaps due to accent, skin color, name), it is very understandable that you may be concerned with everything going around in the headlines.
- fzeroracer 7y ago
  There are also examples of veterans and immigrants married to US citizens having their residency challenged and/or revoked, when in the past that usually meant you were left alone unless you committed particularly egregious crime.
- manigandham 7y ago
  A few headlines is not a signal of mass happenings or a serious cause of concern for the vast majority of legal immigrants. News is designed to sell the worst possible outcome. It's why people think terrorism is a big deal when you're 100x more likely to die of heart disease.
  - asveikau 7y ago
    Well, the Trump administration has been pretty systematic about some of this. People in cages and whatnot. "Fuck green cards" being a pretty much official edict of the travel ban v1.0. Or the story I cited about one day you try to renew your passport after many decades and they challenge you. You think that happened by mistake? But ignoring that, it's all a bunch of isolated incidents until it happens to you. And it is happening to people. A lot of people would not like to take chances with their civil liberties.
    - masonic 7y ago
      People in cages During Obama; stopped by the Trump administration.

I'd like to read more. Links?

by donw 7y ago

I'd like to read more. Links?

I read these stories over the last few years as they appeared in the press, so I don't have them handy, and your google-fu is as good as mine. Here are a few that came up in a search. https://www.npr.org/2018/08/30/643218390/report-u-s-denies-passports-and-questions-americans-birth-certificates https://www.npr.org/2018/08/30/643218390/report-u-s-denies-p... https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/396923-trump-administration-now-has-naturalized-citizens-in-its-sights https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/396923-trump-adminis... -- opinion piece citing this: http://apnews.com/1da389a535684a5f9d0da74081c242f3 http://apnews.com/1da389a535684a5f9d0da74081c242f3 https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686188335/ice-tried-to-deport-this-u-s-citizen-and-marine-veteran https://www.npr.org/2019/01/17/686188335/ice-tried-to-deport... Then of course there was the widely reported fact that the travel ban initially intentionally affected people with valid visas, green cards, and dual citizenship. The short version is if you are legally in this country (either by visa, green card, naturalization or native birth) but have any reason to think somebody would ever believe you might not be (perhaps due to accent, skin color, name), it is very understandable that you may be concerned with everything going around in the headlines.

fzeroracer 7y ago
There are also examples of veterans and immigrants married to US citizens having their residency challenged and/or revoked, when in the past that usually meant you were left alone unless you committed particularly egregious crime.
manigandham 7y ago
A few headlines is not a signal of mass happenings or a serious cause of concern for the vast majority of legal immigrants. News is designed to sell the worst possible outcome. It's why people think terrorism is a big deal when you're 100x more likely to die of heart disease.
- asveikau 7y ago
  Well, the Trump administration has been pretty systematic about some of this. People in cages and whatnot. "Fuck green cards" being a pretty much official edict of the travel ban v1.0. Or the story I cited about one day you try to renew your passport after many decades and they challenge you. You think that happened by mistake? But ignoring that, it's all a bunch of isolated incidents until it happens to you. And it is happening to people. A lot of people would not like to take chances with their civil liberties.
  - masonic 7y ago
    People in cages During Obama; stopped by the Trump administration.