lispbox(common lisp) and drscheme(scheme ldo) are two good packages/environments but it isnt obvious how to find them. the value of a "click to download-click

lispbox(common lisp) and drscheme(scheme ldo) are two good packages/environments but it isnt obvious how to find them. the value of a "click to download-click to install-write short piece of code and see result" -cycle hat can be done immediately is very high. feedback is obv very important for learning and LISP doesnt provide much of that in the beginning. with python you can create games and simple but useful programs right away. when arc is finished im all for helping to create a good IDE and libraries to it and document it well and create a very easy path for beginners to gte started. then maybe lisp can get popular. i think it will stay a small language though.