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Except here we are, Internet stalking a person about a Tweet they sent 6 years ago?

by zaroth 7y ago

kevingadd 7y ago
I don't think it should count as internet stalking to google search the PR rep for a big company or organization. It's another matter to go around following her on every social media platform or publish her address on the internet, which isn't happening here. For example if we were discussing a seed round or venture funding round for a startup and someone brought up that the founder of the startup was that one guy who got away with beating his girlfriend (twice) due to a mixture of lawyer trickery, evidence concealment and police errors, would that be internet stalking?
- throwaway49602 7y ago
  It would be exploiting mob mentality to damage someone who wasn't proven guilty of doing anything wrong, so yes, I would consider it internet stalking. Innocent until proven guilty exists for a reason, otherwise the behavior of a single crazy person could ruin your life forever.
  - jakobegger 7y ago
    "Innocent until proven guilty" is an important standard for justice (you can't jail someone without sufficient proof) but it's not something that applies to everyday life. For example, if a child care provider is accused of abusing children, but the court does not convict them because of lack of evidence, I'm still free to stop sending my kids there.
    - throwaway49602 7y ago
      I just want to be sure I understand: are you saying that it is right and just to lose our capacity to start our own companies because of false allegations?
      - jakobegger 7y ago
        All I'm trying to say is that if you want to earn people's trust, saying "I wasn't proven guilty" isn't going to be enough.
- striking 7y ago
  Right, because multiple assaults are somehow comparable to an insensitive tweet. It's been six years. People who have committed DUIs are shown more mercy than this. How does it benefit us in any way that we might continue this charade?
  - hombre_fatal 7y ago
    We have more of a culture of forgiving someone who served time in jail for a crime they admit they committed than forgiving someone who made a bad tweet six years ago. This was one of the major themes of Joe Rogan's interview with Sam Harris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA106wrMUe4&t=2760s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA106wrMUe4&t=2760s
    - toiletfuneral 7y ago
      "STOP BEING MEAN TO RACISTS"

Except here we are, Internet stalking a person about a Tweet they sent 6 years ago?

by zaroth 7y ago

Except here we are, Internet stalking a person about a Tweet they sent 6 years ago?

I don't think it should count as internet stalking to google search the PR rep for a big company or organization. It's another matter to go around following her on every social media platform or publish her address on the internet, which isn't happening here. For example if we were discussing a seed round or venture funding round for a startup and someone brought up that the founder of the startup was that one guy who got away with beating his girlfriend (twice) due to a mixture of lawyer trickery, evidence concealment and police errors, would that be internet stalking?

throwaway49602 7y ago
It would be exploiting mob mentality to damage someone who wasn't proven guilty of doing anything wrong, so yes, I would consider it internet stalking. Innocent until proven guilty exists for a reason, otherwise the behavior of a single crazy person could ruin your life forever.
- jakobegger 7y ago
  "Innocent until proven guilty" is an important standard for justice (you can't jail someone without sufficient proof) but it's not something that applies to everyday life. For example, if a child care provider is accused of abusing children, but the court does not convict them because of lack of evidence, I'm still free to stop sending my kids there.
  - throwaway49602 7y ago
    I just want to be sure I understand: are you saying that it is right and just to lose our capacity to start our own companies because of false allegations?
    - jakobegger 7y ago
      All I'm trying to say is that if you want to earn people's trust, saying "I wasn't proven guilty" isn't going to be enough.
striking 7y ago
Right, because multiple assaults are somehow comparable to an insensitive tweet. It's been six years. People who have committed DUIs are shown more mercy than this. How does it benefit us in any way that we might continue this charade?
- hombre_fatal 7y ago
  We have more of a culture of forgiving someone who served time in jail for a crime they admit they committed than forgiving someone who made a bad tweet six years ago. This was one of the major themes of Joe Rogan's interview with Sam Harris: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA106wrMUe4&t=2760s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZA106wrMUe4&t=2760s
  - toiletfuneral 7y ago
    "STOP BEING MEAN TO RACISTS"