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Why? I enjoy writing client-side SPAs, and I can pump out a better UI/UX must faster than I could otherwise. My users don't care how I build it, just that the

by hazz99 7y ago

Why? I enjoy writing client-side SPAs, and I can pump out a better UI/UX must faster than I could otherwise. My users don't care how I build it, just that the site works and is enjoyable to use. If I need server-side rendering I'll still write it with a client-side rendered (e.g. React), but tack on server-side rendering at the end.

NullPrefix 7y ago
>My users don't care how I build it, just that the site works and is enjoyable to use. Filter out poor users by making the site inoperable with older hardware. If they cannot afford current gen i9, they will not afford whatever my ad network is pushing. Increases the conversion rate, so all is good.
- hazz99 7y ago
  My laptop from 2011/2012 loads everything perfectly, albeit a bit slower. I assume most people have a computer produced in the last decade. Even my grandparents use an old iPad or cheap smartphone. My machine isn't particularly powerful either - I use an old Macbook.
  - cameronbrown 7y ago
    Even if it loads and performes OK, I still don't like it. Client-side rendering is making the web even more fragile - nothing is going to last anymore.
- A4ET8a8uTh0 7y ago
  It is a website. If it requires i9 to run, something went seriously wrong. Was this sarcasm?
  - NullPrefix 7y ago
    Exaggeration.
wolco 7y ago
I like to build my websites in COBOL but the browsers won't support it even though I'm more productive. You are not building this for yourself if you need to be indexed by google. You need to build in a supported way. The bigger question is why you think an spa should rank well in general. It's only one page.
- stackola 7y ago
  >The bigger question is why you think an spa should rank well in general. It's only one page. Spoken like someone who hasn't used the web in 5 years.
  - wolco 7y ago
    I hope my mailed letter will reach hn soon so I can reply. My work has powered some of the sites you've visited over the last 5 years. I hope you've enjoyed the experience. Still doesn't make a spa worthly of ranking well in general.. unless it's really a useful app with actual functionality instead of a shallow one page website. Reply with some sites you made that you feel should rank well. Let's see how they hold up.
    - stackola 7y ago
      No one is saying the should get a boost in ranking or rank well just by being an SPA. You're the one suggesting they should be penalized just for the fact they use client side rendering. You seem to suggest that a SPA can only consist of a single `view`, when in fact there's often no discernible difference apart from the underlying architecture. Maybe we need a new word, so people stop getting confused. SPA has nothing to do with the amount of content or views a website has. It's just as simple to create a shallow, useless website in PHP as it is in React.
    - buzzerbetrayed 7y ago
      You can’t just say something completely false, wait until someone corrects you, and then go off about how you’ve made websites that they’ve used in the last 5 years so you know more than them. That’s called appeal to authority. It’s a logical fallacy. Your statement was false, regardless of how “authoritative” you are on the subject. If you meant something else by your statement, you should have expressed it better.

by hazz99 7y ago

NullPrefix 7y ago

>My users don't care how I build it, just that the site works and is enjoyable to use. Filter out poor users by making the site inoperable with older hardware. If they cannot afford current gen i9, they will not afford whatever my ad network is pushing. Increases the conversion rate, so all is good.

hazz99 7y ago
My laptop from 2011/2012 loads everything perfectly, albeit a bit slower. I assume most people have a computer produced in the last decade. Even my grandparents use an old iPad or cheap smartphone. My machine isn't particularly powerful either - I use an old Macbook.
- cameronbrown 7y ago
  Even if it loads and performes OK, I still don't like it. Client-side rendering is making the web even more fragile - nothing is going to last anymore.
A4ET8a8uTh0 7y ago
It is a website. If it requires i9 to run, something went seriously wrong. Was this sarcasm?
- NullPrefix 7y ago
  Exaggeration.

wolco 7y ago

I like to build my websites in COBOL but the browsers won't support it even though I'm more productive. You are not building this for yourself if you need to be indexed by google. You need to build in a supported way. The bigger question is why you think an spa should rank well in general. It's only one page.

stackola 7y ago
>The bigger question is why you think an spa should rank well in general. It's only one page. Spoken like someone who hasn't used the web in 5 years.
- wolco 7y ago
  I hope my mailed letter will reach hn soon so I can reply. My work has powered some of the sites you've visited over the last 5 years. I hope you've enjoyed the experience. Still doesn't make a spa worthly of ranking well in general.. unless it's really a useful app with actual functionality instead of a shallow one page website. Reply with some sites you made that you feel should rank well. Let's see how they hold up.
  - stackola 7y ago
    No one is saying the should get a boost in ranking or rank well just by being an SPA. You're the one suggesting they should be penalized just for the fact they use client side rendering. You seem to suggest that a SPA can only consist of a single `view`, when in fact there's often no discernible difference apart from the underlying architecture. Maybe we need a new word, so people stop getting confused. SPA has nothing to do with the amount of content or views a website has. It's just as simple to create a shallow, useless website in PHP as it is in React.
  - buzzerbetrayed 7y ago
    You can’t just say something completely false, wait until someone corrects you, and then go off about how you’ve made websites that they’ve used in the last 5 years so you know more than them. That’s called appeal to authority. It’s a logical fallacy. Your statement was false, regardless of how “authoritative” you are on the subject. If you meant something else by your statement, you should have expressed it better.