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As a parent, I feel that I have some responsibility to provide my daughters with the best life outcome possible. Examples of failed life outcomes would be drug
by romaaeterna 7y ago
As a parent, I feel that I have some responsibility to provide my daughters with the best life outcome possible.
Examples of failed life outcomes would be drug addiction, poverty, suicide, or dying alone with their cats. There are many more.
In general, unrestrained sexual behavior tend to be bad for your odds ratio. That's not even getting to positive life outcomes, which involve developing fully as a human being, and with full and deep relationships to the other human beings around you. Unrestrained sexual behavior tends to be bad for this too.
In case you've ever wondered, this is also why sex on television is so much worse than violence on television. Seeing a murder on television doesn't really alter my children's odds ratio for becoming a violent criminal too much. But seeing a lot of sex on television makes it much more likely that they'll take sex less seriously than is good for them.
- thaumasiotes 7y ago> In general, unrestrained sexual behavior tend to be bad for your odds ratio. On the other hand, it's great at avoiding the "dying alone with your cats" failure mode.
- not_a_cop75 7y agoI've heard of fat shaming, and sex shaming, but cat shaming? Let people like their animals, damn it!
- romaaeterna 7y ago> On the other hand, it's great at avoiding the "dying alone with your cats" failure mode. For a woman? You really think so? My impression has been that unstable relationships tend to make stable pair bonds far less likely in the future (for men too, but not quite as starkly). Further, women have a much easier time forming lifelong bonds in their 20s and early 30s than in their 40s and 50s (men too, but the effect is not as stark). In fact, I'd even go so far as to say that if someone really wanted to maximize their chances of dying alone, unstable sexual relationships throughout their peak reproductive years is by far the best method.
- thaumasiotes 7y ago> I'd even go so far as to say that if someone really wanted to maximize their chances of dying alone, unstable sexual relationships throughout their peak reproductive years is by far the best method. Not even close. Unstable sexual relationships through the peak reproductive years mean you're likely to end up with children.
- romaaeterna 7y agoThat has not really been the case ever since the advent of modern birth control.
- thaumasiotes 7y agoIt's still the case now. There's a very large subpopulation who aren't really capable of using birth control effectively.
- romaaeterna 7y agoCan you be more detailed about this subpopulation?
- thaumasiotes 7y agoSure thing. From Planned Parenthood: > If you use condoms perfectly every single time you have sex, they’re 98% effective at preventing pregnancy. But people aren’t perfect, so in real life condoms are about 85% effective — that means about 15 out of 100 people who use condoms as their only birth control method will get pregnant each year. ( https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom/how-effective-are-condoms https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/birth-control/condom... ) This applies to all forms of active birth control, and is the major reason people push for passive forms such as IUDs and long-term implants.
- romaaeterna 7y ago
- hayez1 7y agoIf one is in perpetual sterile, transient relations with the soul purpose being to satisfy their sexual desires, they are unlikely to ever find a significant other. When they get old and no one finds them attractive anymore, they will (the women at least) become the crazy old cat lady.
- gnulinux 7y agoCrazy according to whom, which metric? This is a baseless, offensive commenting intending to insult people you don't like for whatever reason.
- adrianN 7y agoThose are valid concerns, but I'm not convinced that sexual behavior is causative of bad life outcomes. It seems plausible to me that unhealthy sexual behavior and bad life outcomes have a common cause. I don't think the evidence is strong enough to call sexting extremely dangerous. Do you think that it's more or less dangerous than occasionally drinking some beer while underage?
- tomcam 7y agoParent poster clearly said “unrestrained sexual behavior”, which can damage any social unit. For example, you may be less than thrilled if your partner was sexting without your knowledge. The brain of a teenager isn’t fully formed, which makes the situation more dire.
- lr4444lr 7y agoWhen you send an image of yourself to someone, you run the risk of that image, with evidence of it being you, coming back to damage you socially. When you receive such an image knowingly, you are at risk for prosecution of child pornography. Neither is a risk that an adolescent is deemed capably mature of weighing. Very few kids are dying of alcohol poisoning due to beer. Drinking beer and driving IS a serious concern.
- kumoflow 7y agoWhy then we don't have this 'epidemic' in Europe where sex on tv isn't seen as a big boogie man. Where you can easily go places where kids will see adults of the opposite sex naked (saunas and gyms).? I don't understand why you think seeing violence on tv (teen gangs beating a kid for his sneakers or whatever) won't affect your daughter, but seeing a couple have sex (not porn, just an overview of a sexual act) can corrupt her!
- romaaeterna 7y agoIsn't the EU-28 fertility rate only 1.58? That's actually population crash levels. You do, in fact, have a great epidemic of people who are going to die alone.
- AstralStorm 7y agoIt's only a crash because we say it is. What if it's a healthy reaction to bad conditions or overpopulation? Now note the child bearing rates in second degree immigrants (naturalized) to see how true it is. Do you consider that a crash of their population? A crash is when population actually shrinks which it has not to date. It's stabilizing thus far. The more important crash part is of the ill-conceived social and capital programmes expecting forever exponential growth. Guess what, that's wrong.
- damnyou 7y agoMy "sexual behavior" is pretty "unrestrained" (in the sense that I don't believe in exclusivity) and yet I have deep and fulfilling relationships with people I love. Society can be better.
- gnulinux 7y ago> dying alone with their cats. Wow I find this very condescending. What is wrong with living alone? What if your children are asexual and don't want to have partners?
- stagger87 7y agoYou don't even have to be asexual to want to be single. Simply having a demanding career is enough (along with many other things).
- gnulinux 7y agoWell sure but my point is there are people, like me, with no sexual or romantic interest in people so even if they have nothing else to do, they by default do not want to have a partner. Saying "I wish my children won't be a cat lady" sounds to me like "I wish my children won't be gay". I hope someone will write a constructive comment so that I can understand why I'm being downvoted.
- unixhero 7y agoI don't think it is condescending. He definitely has a point and it is not something one would want for ones' child. It is not what one hopes for.