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I'm a .NET developer and I'm very pleased with the direction the tech stack is heading, but man. Microsoft Teams is so much worse than Slack. The UI is so much

I'm a .NET developer and I'm very pleased with the direction the tech stack is heading, but man. Microsoft Teams is so much worse than Slack. The UI is so much less intuitive, but worse, they haven't figured out scrolling. I can't scroll quickly through chat history -- it's always loading -- meaning it's much harder to get the information I want. On the other hand, maybe Slack takes up so much memory because it pre-loads everything. But even more damningly, there are fewer emojis. Sometimes there is no emoji for what I am feeling.

blackoil 7y ago
Man!! biggest problem of 2019 developer in communication :emoji:. Try using gifs, there always seems exact one for the mood, or maybe words.
- asdfman123 7y ago
  At my last workplace it was fun choosing oddly specific reaction emojis for comments. Like I loaded a gif of a dumpster fire and used it as emoji. I uploaded a picture of my face to use as an emoji. I uploaded the "It's free real estate!" guy. Yes, I'm 33, my coworkers were younger but I have the meme knowledge of someone 2/3rds my age due to endless reddit scrolling, thank you. I can keep up with the kids.
  - drankula3 7y ago
    That's great, that's fun. What's the business value of using gifs in business discussion though? I thought they were almost exclusively used for emotional expression only.
    - anbop 7y ago
      Emotional expression is an important component of high bandwidth business communication.
      - close04 7y ago
        I find myself using the :poop: emoji a lot...
    - ultraluminous 7y ago
      I am both bemused and somewhat concerned that you seems to hold the belief that "business discussions" are conducted outside of the realm of "emotional expression".
  - tracker1 7y ago
    I'm 44... and most of this isn't really all that new... sure, now we have unicode characters instead of :-) but this stuff started all the way back in the 80's.
    - astrobe_ 7y ago
      Eternal September.
    - asdfman123 7y ago
      Perhaps you're unaware of the panoply of extremely postmodern memes that come out every week in the darkest crevices of the internet?
elboru 7y ago
Is it just me or it became more difficult to search words in a chat? When I try to find something in a chat I would give up if it was written more than a week ago, as you mention scroll is really bad/slow and searching doesn’t help, so I end up asking the person if he/she remembers the thing I’m looking for.
- basch 7y ago
  and teams search will bring you to the exact word you searched, but not show the context/conversation AROUND that message.
notTyler 7y ago
The gif search is so bad too, for whatever reason.
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ci5er 7y ago
Stop having feelings. Your communication effectiveness will improve. EDIT: I thought about saying - and nobody cares. But I thought that was cruel. But, it's also true, so I'm making this edit to add that back in...
- juststeve 7y ago
  asdfman123 is referencing The Simpsons.
  - ci5er 7y ago
    Oh. That's unfortunate. I am culturally inept. I was intending to be mildly jocular (in a dry way) and got swooshed. Welcome to Friday, I guess. (There was no onion-on-the-belt reference, so at that point - I was lost!)
WorldMaker 7y ago
Huh, I didn't even realize Teams had a custom emoji picker. I've been mostly using the Windows emoji keyboard in teams, which gives you the full Unicode emoji set, and now kaomoji, at the press of Win+. or Win+; (whichever is more convenient on your keyboard layout)
- tracker1 7y ago
  LOL, coolest thing I've learned today... didn't know windows even had an emoji picker built in.
  - Fat_Thor 7y ago
    Win+V open up the clipboard manager. Never knew.
- mhermher 7y ago
  This is pretty cool. How was it supposed to ever be discovered though?
  - WorldMaker 7y ago
    Random semi-related comments on HN? ;) (I learned about it from Insider blogs as they were adding the hardware keyboard shortcuts/experience to Windows builds. [It's been on the soft keyboards for tablet/mobile UX for much longer.])
martin_bech 7y ago
Also translations are horrible for such a big project. “Like” for me (danish) is translated to something like “send a heart” but even more gibberish. Notifications are also wonky.
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o-__-o 7y ago
Slack does not preload everything. Try to scroll back a few months in slack and then copy and paste all the text from then to now. Look at all of that loading... just like Teams. Slack shill detected
- asdfman123 7y ago
  I promise I'm not a shill. I just know Teams takes forever to load, and Slack seems to load flawlessly as I scroll. I know on the web interface Teams it seems to work, and perhaps it's just a matter of time before MS figures it out. Still, annoying.
- dang 7y ago
  > Slack shill detected That badly breaks the site guideline against insinuations of astroturfing and we ban accounts that do that. Would you please review them and follow the rules? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

blackoil 7y ago

Man!! biggest problem of 2019 developer in communication :emoji:. Try using gifs, there always seems exact one for the mood, or maybe words.

asdfman123 7y ago
At my last workplace it was fun choosing oddly specific reaction emojis for comments. Like I loaded a gif of a dumpster fire and used it as emoji. I uploaded a picture of my face to use as an emoji. I uploaded the "It's free real estate!" guy. Yes, I'm 33, my coworkers were younger but I have the meme knowledge of someone 2/3rds my age due to endless reddit scrolling, thank you. I can keep up with the kids.
- drankula3 7y ago
  That's great, that's fun. What's the business value of using gifs in business discussion though? I thought they were almost exclusively used for emotional expression only.
  - anbop 7y ago
    Emotional expression is an important component of high bandwidth business communication.
    - close04 7y ago
      I find myself using the :poop: emoji a lot...
  - ultraluminous 7y ago
    I am both bemused and somewhat concerned that you seems to hold the belief that "business discussions" are conducted outside of the realm of "emotional expression".
- tracker1 7y ago
  I'm 44... and most of this isn't really all that new... sure, now we have unicode characters instead of :-) but this stuff started all the way back in the 80's.
  - astrobe_ 7y ago
    Eternal September.
  - asdfman123 7y ago
    Perhaps you're unaware of the panoply of extremely postmodern memes that come out every week in the darkest crevices of the internet?

elboru 7y ago

Is it just me or it became more difficult to search words in a chat? When I try to find something in a chat I would give up if it was written more than a week ago, as you mention scroll is really bad/slow and searching doesn’t help, so I end up asking the person if he/she remembers the thing I’m looking for.

basch 7y ago
and teams search will bring you to the exact word you searched, but not show the context/conversation AROUND that message.

notTyler 7y ago

The gif search is so bad too, for whatever reason.

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ci5er 7y ago

Stop having feelings. Your communication effectiveness will improve. EDIT: I thought about saying - and nobody cares. But I thought that was cruel. But, it's also true, so I'm making this edit to add that back in...

juststeve 7y ago
asdfman123 is referencing The Simpsons.
- ci5er 7y ago
  Oh. That's unfortunate. I am culturally inept. I was intending to be mildly jocular (in a dry way) and got swooshed. Welcome to Friday, I guess. (There was no onion-on-the-belt reference, so at that point - I was lost!)

WorldMaker 7y ago

Huh, I didn't even realize Teams had a custom emoji picker. I've been mostly using the Windows emoji keyboard in teams, which gives you the full Unicode emoji set, and now kaomoji, at the press of Win+. or Win+; (whichever is more convenient on your keyboard layout)

tracker1 7y ago
LOL, coolest thing I've learned today... didn't know windows even had an emoji picker built in.
- Fat_Thor 7y ago
  Win+V open up the clipboard manager. Never knew.
mhermher 7y ago
This is pretty cool. How was it supposed to ever be discovered though?
- WorldMaker 7y ago
  Random semi-related comments on HN? ;) (I learned about it from Insider blogs as they were adding the hardware keyboard shortcuts/experience to Windows builds. [It's been on the soft keyboards for tablet/mobile UX for much longer.])

martin_bech 7y ago

Also translations are horrible for such a big project. “Like” for me (danish) is translated to something like “send a heart” but even more gibberish. Notifications are also wonky.

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o-__-o 7y ago

Slack does not preload everything. Try to scroll back a few months in slack and then copy and paste all the text from then to now. Look at all of that loading... just like Teams. Slack shill detected

asdfman123 7y ago
I promise I'm not a shill. I just know Teams takes forever to load, and Slack seems to load flawlessly as I scroll. I know on the web interface Teams it seems to work, and perhaps it's just a matter of time before MS figures it out. Still, annoying.
dang 7y ago
> Slack shill detected That badly breaks the site guideline against insinuations of astroturfing and we ban accounts that do that. Would you please review them and follow the rules? https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html