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O365 is an interesting one. We were using G-Suite at my previous place, which was on a hiring spree of sales and marketing guys/gals, and pretty much everybody

O365 is an interesting one. We were using G-Suite at my previous place, which was on a hiring spree of sales and marketing guys/gals, and pretty much everybody that came in said they'd rather have MS products. Are they better? Maybe, Maybe not. I can almost guarantee that G-suite covered most of their needs but they were just used to MS products and it was easier to bite the bullet and use MS that hear them gripe continuously. Lost productivity has a cost too FWIW, I think G-Suite is probably good enough for 80-90% of users.

qaq 7y ago
prob outlook is hard to replace with gmail for their workflows
- sushisource 7y ago
  I'd guess that. Gmail has maybe 10% of the features Outlook does. I really dislike it as an email service, especially since they've killed Inbox which at least made it a bit more tolerable.
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e40 7y ago
G suite can edit native office docs now, so that might ease people into it.
mcmoose75 7y ago
I don't have a clear stance on whether O365 is "better" than G-Suite, either, but the lock-in is real. For non-technical business users, having a deep expertise in Excel (and knowing all the hotkeys) is really tough to pivot from. Powerpoint is also pretty similar- once you're an expert, you don't want to relearn on a different application (whether or not it's better on a few criteria)
tracker1 7y ago
The problem is that every user has a different 10-15% of features that aren't covered by G-Suite... and o365 is definitively better than G-Suite. Setup an inbound email list, for example. I've tried both a few times, and consistently the experience with o365 is better. I want to like google's offering, they just don't seem to care much about actual user experience or cohesion in features and configuration. As much as Teams isn't as good as slack in a lot of ways, it's better than gsuite... as okay as gmail and gcalendar are, outlook (even web) is just so much better. The spreadsheet stuff is almost on par, MS has better integrations. The doc stuff is significantly better in o365 word. G Suite would have to drop closer to $2/user/month to really be a value alternative even.

qaq 7y ago

prob outlook is hard to replace with gmail for their workflows

sushisource 7y ago
I'd guess that. Gmail has maybe 10% of the features Outlook does. I really dislike it as an email service, especially since they've killed Inbox which at least made it a bit more tolerable.

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e40 7y ago

G suite can edit native office docs now, so that might ease people into it.

mcmoose75 7y ago

I don't have a clear stance on whether O365 is "better" than G-Suite, either, but the lock-in is real. For non-technical business users, having a deep expertise in Excel (and knowing all the hotkeys) is really tough to pivot from. Powerpoint is also pretty similar- once you're an expert, you don't want to relearn on a different application (whether or not it's better on a few criteria)

tracker1 7y ago

The problem is that every user has a different 10-15% of features that aren't covered by G-Suite... and o365 is definitively better than G-Suite. Setup an inbound email list, for example. I've tried both a few times, and consistently the experience with o365 is better. I want to like google's offering, they just don't seem to care much about actual user experience or cohesion in features and configuration. As much as Teams isn't as good as slack in a lot of ways, it's better than gsuite... as okay as gmail and gcalendar are, outlook (even web) is just so much better. The spreadsheet stuff is almost on par, MS has better integrations. The doc stuff is significantly better in o365 word. G Suite would have to drop closer to $2/user/month to really be a value alternative even.