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There's folks working on Bleve (written in Go) and developers that I work with want to use it (we use Elasticsearch heavily), but as I've told everyone like you

There's folks working on Bleve (written in Go) and developers that I work with want to use it (we use Elasticsearch heavily), but as I've told everyone like you just did, Lucene has a 20 year head start. Thing is, there's heavy demand for something more performant than Elasticsearch, so eventually the market will provide. Meanwhile, Redis Enterprise is trying to grab some 'share with RediSearch, which has some severe caveats IMO that make it not a great fit for most.

bpicolo 7y ago
Tantivy is an interesting project I'd point to in this space: https://github.com/tantivy-search/tantivy https://github.com/tantivy-search/tantivy That said - it's effectively Lucene rewritten in rust, so the main win is some performance gains. Lucene has spent a ton of time getting the details right, and it's unlikely we'll see an order of magnitude of innovation in that particular space. At the higher level for querying / query understanding it feels like there's still more technological room to grow vs the lower level details.
- pornel 7y ago
  Seconded Tantivy. Very easy to set up and maintain, and faast.
- fulmicoton 7y ago
  Tantivy main dev here. Thanks for the free marketing :) It is not exactly a port but yeah. tantivy is strongly inspired from Lucene. > Lucene has spent a ton of time getting the details right, and it's unlikely we'll see an order of magnitude of innovation in that particular space. Have you checked out the perf gain in Lucene 8.0 ? Block-WAND proved you wrong.
  - bpicolo 7y ago
    I suppose I could have phrased that better. I appreciate the correction. I mostly mean to say that the functionality is really impressive today, and serves its use case very well for the intended target of lower level search primitives. Tantivy is a cool project, but I have to say the part I love most about it is your blog posts on it. They're a great introduction for people who are unfamiliar with the underlying tech of search engines.
    - fulmicoton 7y ago
      > Tantivy is a cool project, but I have to say the part I love most about it is your blog posts on it. They're a great introduction for people who are unfamiliar with the underlying tech of search engines. Thanks a lot! I am not a native speaker, and I often feel very bad at conveying engineering concepts. The positive feedback is actually very helpful :)
seesaw 7y ago
We use Solr/Lucene heavily, ingesting about 3TB a day. We had to build our own clustering since we started before the Solr cloud project. We have been very happy with the results.
rbjorklin 7y ago
If you’re looking for something more performant and you’re in retail I’d recommend taking a look at Apptus eSales. Their product has displaced ES/SOLR at several retail websites in Sweden. https://www.apptus.com/ https://www.apptus.com/ Disclaimer: I’m a previous employee but have no economic interests in this as it’s not a publicly traded company.

bpicolo 7y ago

Tantivy is an interesting project I'd point to in this space: https://github.com/tantivy-search/tantivy https://github.com/tantivy-search/tantivy That said - it's effectively Lucene rewritten in rust, so the main win is some performance gains. Lucene has spent a ton of time getting the details right, and it's unlikely we'll see an order of magnitude of innovation in that particular space. At the higher level for querying / query understanding it feels like there's still more technological room to grow vs the lower level details.

pornel 7y ago
Seconded Tantivy. Very easy to set up and maintain, and faast.
fulmicoton 7y ago
Tantivy main dev here. Thanks for the free marketing :) It is not exactly a port but yeah. tantivy is strongly inspired from Lucene. > Lucene has spent a ton of time getting the details right, and it's unlikely we'll see an order of magnitude of innovation in that particular space. Have you checked out the perf gain in Lucene 8.0 ? Block-WAND proved you wrong.
- bpicolo 7y ago
  I suppose I could have phrased that better. I appreciate the correction. I mostly mean to say that the functionality is really impressive today, and serves its use case very well for the intended target of lower level search primitives. Tantivy is a cool project, but I have to say the part I love most about it is your blog posts on it. They're a great introduction for people who are unfamiliar with the underlying tech of search engines.
  - fulmicoton 7y ago
    > Tantivy is a cool project, but I have to say the part I love most about it is your blog posts on it. They're a great introduction for people who are unfamiliar with the underlying tech of search engines. Thanks a lot! I am not a native speaker, and I often feel very bad at conveying engineering concepts. The positive feedback is actually very helpful :)

seesaw 7y ago

We use Solr/Lucene heavily, ingesting about 3TB a day. We had to build our own clustering since we started before the Solr cloud project. We have been very happy with the results.

rbjorklin 7y ago

If you’re looking for something more performant and you’re in retail I’d recommend taking a look at Apptus eSales. Their product has displaced ES/SOLR at several retail websites in Sweden. https://www.apptus.com/ https://www.apptus.com/ Disclaimer: I’m a previous employee but have no economic interests in this as it’s not a publicly traded company.