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Same. Reading "Five Myths of Community Design" on the same site [1] left me kind of wondering if they really built a service people would want to use. Personall

Same. Reading "Five Myths of Community Design" on the same site [1] left me kind of wondering if they really built a service people would want to use. Personally, I've always thought the "like" model of modern online interaction is broken, but my idea about fixing it would be to add "Agree" and "Disagree" buttons, but only display the sum the two as a measure of engagement. [1] https://coralproject.net/blog/five-myths-of-community-design-day-one/#myth1 https://coralproject.net/blog/five-myths-of-community-design...

jdavis703 7y ago
You need more than agree and disagree to measure engagement, otherwise you're just measuring polarization. For example you might want to measure several reactions such as: interesting, funny, angering and sad.
- DarkWiiPlayer 7y ago
  I believe that if the social currency is interactions instead of specifically positive interactions, as well as with the shift from "dislike" to "disagree" (something less associated with negative emotions) this would discourage engaging at all with strongly offensive content, effectively just starving it of attention. Of course this is just a theory; until someone implements it and evaluates the result, I may well be completely wrong and maybe it'd even have the oposite effect.
- mgkimsal 7y ago
  a "thanks" button would go a long way to bringing some outward civility to many discussions. 'like' just doesn't have the same weight.
- olah_1 7y ago
  >interesting, funny, angering and sad. If facebook is any indication, these end up being used mostly ironically. I can't imagine they give facebook any real indication of emotion on their platform. Even the "angry" react (which is mostly an ironic reaction), is missing the context. Are you angry with the commenter? Are you angry about the something the commenter is referencing?
  - new_guy 7y ago
    >Even the "angry" react (which is mostly an ironic reaction), is missing the context. Are you angry with the commenter? Are you angry about the something the commenter is referencing? Interestingly on my site we have a total of 31 custom reactions people can use to express their reaction to a piece. The ONLY one people feel the need to qualify is the dislike one, anytime someone uses it they qualify it with 'disliking the content, not the post'. There's no obvious reason for it though, the dislike is just one among many and it looks the same as all the other reactions, but it's the only one to generate a unique response.
    - olah_1 7y ago
      It would be interesting if all reactions could have some system of reacting to different parts of a post. Perhaps you can attach a react onto the username instead of the comment? Or you can attach a react onto a specific sentence of a comment instead of the entire comment?
- repolfx 7y ago
  For example you might want to measure several reactions such as: interesting, funny, angering and sad. Slashdot does that. To vote for a post you have to pick an adjective. I always thought it worked well, because it showed what kind of content would be valued. For example "funny" is an adjective you can pick, which signals the site valued funny comments. I had some great laughs reading it back in the day.
olah_1 7y ago
>"Agree" and "Disagree" buttons Why not just have an Overton window slider that lets people place where they think the comment is on the scale?
- DarkWiiPlayer 7y ago
  That's the exact opposite of what I'm saying. It puts emphasis on "Is it acceptable to post this". I'm talking precisely about ignoring those posts altogether.
RHSeeger 7y ago
What if I don't agree with something, but think it's worthwhile to read. A dissenting opinion, etc.

jdavis703 7y ago

You need more than agree and disagree to measure engagement, otherwise you're just measuring polarization. For example you might want to measure several reactions such as: interesting, funny, angering and sad.

DarkWiiPlayer 7y ago
I believe that if the social currency is interactions instead of specifically positive interactions, as well as with the shift from "dislike" to "disagree" (something less associated with negative emotions) this would discourage engaging at all with strongly offensive content, effectively just starving it of attention. Of course this is just a theory; until someone implements it and evaluates the result, I may well be completely wrong and maybe it'd even have the oposite effect.
mgkimsal 7y ago
a "thanks" button would go a long way to bringing some outward civility to many discussions. 'like' just doesn't have the same weight.
olah_1 7y ago
>interesting, funny, angering and sad. If facebook is any indication, these end up being used mostly ironically. I can't imagine they give facebook any real indication of emotion on their platform. Even the "angry" react (which is mostly an ironic reaction), is missing the context. Are you angry with the commenter? Are you angry about the something the commenter is referencing?
- new_guy 7y ago
  >Even the "angry" react (which is mostly an ironic reaction), is missing the context. Are you angry with the commenter? Are you angry about the something the commenter is referencing? Interestingly on my site we have a total of 31 custom reactions people can use to express their reaction to a piece. The ONLY one people feel the need to qualify is the dislike one, anytime someone uses it they qualify it with 'disliking the content, not the post'. There's no obvious reason for it though, the dislike is just one among many and it looks the same as all the other reactions, but it's the only one to generate a unique response.
  - olah_1 7y ago
    It would be interesting if all reactions could have some system of reacting to different parts of a post. Perhaps you can attach a react onto the username instead of the comment? Or you can attach a react onto a specific sentence of a comment instead of the entire comment?
repolfx 7y ago
For example you might want to measure several reactions such as: interesting, funny, angering and sad. Slashdot does that. To vote for a post you have to pick an adjective. I always thought it worked well, because it showed what kind of content would be valued. For example "funny" is an adjective you can pick, which signals the site valued funny comments. I had some great laughs reading it back in the day.

olah_1 7y ago

>"Agree" and "Disagree" buttons Why not just have an Overton window slider that lets people place where they think the comment is on the scale?

DarkWiiPlayer 7y ago
That's the exact opposite of what I'm saying. It puts emphasis on "Is it acceptable to post this". I'm talking precisely about ignoring those posts altogether.

RHSeeger 7y ago

What if I don't agree with something, but think it's worthwhile to read. A dissenting opinion, etc.