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This is interesting. I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for cre

This is interesting. I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for creators (I can sell videos!). Obviously, pornhub is going to restrict the audience a bit, so I've been toying with the idea of making a video hosting site with solid monetization options and categories of ads beyond porn. I think the biggest thing I don't understand is CDNs and delivering the video quickly. If I get some traction in the course, maybe I could launch a site with that content. The monetization options on YouTube are just lacking. You have ads or 5$ / mo subscriptions (if you have 100k subscribers). My model is going to be 90% free videos with just the solutions to assignments paid. I'll make a small bit on ads, but mostly through 1$ video sales. I was going to offer pdf chapters for each module as well, but since ph only allows image formats and it would be a lot of work to write, I've nixed that idea.

sct202 7y ago
Is there a reason you wouldn't use Udemy or one of the other websites like that?
- TACIXAT 7y ago
  I tried to make a udemy course a few years ago, same topic. My biggest issue was that I needed a complete course for that. Maybe my goals are too lofty, but I got 5 or 6 modules in and lost momentum. I wanted a place where I could post as I made things.
itcrowd 7y ago
> I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for creators I find this hilarious, but at the same time I am wondering whether you're serious? I'm confused now..
- mulmen 7y ago
  Didn't this happen not long ago with gun streamers?
Havoc 7y ago
Can't tell if serious. But just in case- ph is blocked by pretty much every corporate network in existence right. That might put a bit of a dent in which computer security experts can access the content. I suppose getting to the content by bypassing firewalls could be part of the learning experience lol
- TACIXAT 7y ago
  I think that is actually a feature. I want to do something for hackers, not our corporate overlords. If someone is willing to learn this stuff in their non working hours, they are probably a pretty motivated student.
friedegg 7y ago
I think we will eventually see VideoHub or something along those lines with a similar hosting platform from the PornHub company, just for non-porn.
- earenndil 7y ago
  They may try it--they have the expertise, and the infrastructure--but I think they will try to separate the brands, and I doubt they will be able to do better than vimeo.
  - JD557 7y ago
    >They'll try to separate the brands I'm pretty sure they will, and they already have a lot of experience doing that. It's incredible how many people in this topic mention "PornHub", but not "MindGeek". They could just start yet another video streaming site and probably most people wouldn't know that it's using the same technology as the top porn sites.
- TACIXAT 7y ago
  Yea, maybe if I see some success on there it could encourage them to try out that model. CreatorHub or something. They do already have all the correct infrastructure for it, payments, subscriptions. If the ads were relevant it would be the perfect platform.
Mathnerd314 7y ago
The obvious place to put it is an online learning platform, just googling "create online course" shows a dozen different websites with various monetization options. Or you could do unlisted YouTube videos and a simple pay site. Or Vimeo has some embedding options. The main problem I see is product differentiation, e.g. MIT has a computer security course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqmQg-cszw4&list=PLUl4u3cNGP62K2DjQLRxDNRi0z2IRWnNh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqmQg-cszw4&list=PLUl4u3cNGP.... If someone wants to learn they'd probably watch something like that instead of your course.
- TACIXAT 7y ago
  Unlisted is not very well protected. Once someone has the url, it is out there. PH at least ties the purchases to an account. Sure, someone can download and throw them on torrents, but it feels less like leaving the barn door open. As for differentiation, simply, my course will be the best. It's designed to take you from zero to security analyst. Those MIT lectures are taught with chalk and don't lay the foundations properly. The topics are good though, cool to see something on symbolic execution. I want to give people the background knowledge. Like buffer overflows are easy if you understand stack frames, and assembly. I want to teach that stuff first before telling someone to go stumble through an exploitation exercise. I want to do that for every topic.
  - techsin101 7y ago
    Are you collecting emails for launch news, if love to check it out when it's out
    - TACIXAT 7y ago
      I am not, but it is https://www.pornhub.com/model/cybering https://www.pornhub.com/model/cybering. Obviously, NSFW. It has the setup module right now, and an in progress command line basics. The topics will get more advanced after I get through the prerequisites. Thanks for checking it out!
otakucode 7y ago
Keep in mind, YouTube recently announced that they're planning on going after computer security information with their claws soon. That means Google doesn't like that information either. Even though PH is very limiting, that would probably be a better option than YouTube because you're very unlikely to ever see a cent from monetization there. I follow a lawyer with a small (100k) YouTube channel and he has to fight tooth and nail with YouTube for every video he uploads, no matter how innocuous. Whether you follow their rules or not, even if you walk on eggshells and avoid everything even remotely controversial, none of it matters. Have you considered Patreon?

sct202 7y ago

Is there a reason you wouldn't use Udemy or one of the other websites like that?

TACIXAT 7y ago
I tried to make a udemy course a few years ago, same topic. My biggest issue was that I needed a complete course for that. Maybe my goals are too lofty, but I got 5 or 6 modules in and lost momentum. I wanted a place where I could post as I made things.

itcrowd 7y ago

> I'm starting to make a computer security course right now and I've chosen to put it on pornhub. The monetization options are better for creators I find this hilarious, but at the same time I am wondering whether you're serious? I'm confused now..

mulmen 7y ago
Didn't this happen not long ago with gun streamers?

Havoc 7y ago

Can't tell if serious. But just in case- ph is blocked by pretty much every corporate network in existence right. That might put a bit of a dent in which computer security experts can access the content. I suppose getting to the content by bypassing firewalls could be part of the learning experience lol

TACIXAT 7y ago
I think that is actually a feature. I want to do something for hackers, not our corporate overlords. If someone is willing to learn this stuff in their non working hours, they are probably a pretty motivated student.

friedegg 7y ago

I think we will eventually see VideoHub or something along those lines with a similar hosting platform from the PornHub company, just for non-porn.

earenndil 7y ago
They may try it--they have the expertise, and the infrastructure--but I think they will try to separate the brands, and I doubt they will be able to do better than vimeo.
- JD557 7y ago
  >They'll try to separate the brands I'm pretty sure they will, and they already have a lot of experience doing that. It's incredible how many people in this topic mention "PornHub", but not "MindGeek". They could just start yet another video streaming site and probably most people wouldn't know that it's using the same technology as the top porn sites.
TACIXAT 7y ago
Yea, maybe if I see some success on there it could encourage them to try out that model. CreatorHub or something. They do already have all the correct infrastructure for it, payments, subscriptions. If the ads were relevant it would be the perfect platform.

Mathnerd314 7y ago

The obvious place to put it is an online learning platform, just googling "create online course" shows a dozen different websites with various monetization options. Or you could do unlisted YouTube videos and a simple pay site. Or Vimeo has some embedding options. The main problem I see is product differentiation, e.g. MIT has a computer security course: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqmQg-cszw4&list=PLUl4u3cNGP62K2DjQLRxDNRi0z2IRWnNh https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GqmQg-cszw4&list=PLUl4u3cNGP.... If someone wants to learn they'd probably watch something like that instead of your course.

TACIXAT 7y ago
Unlisted is not very well protected. Once someone has the url, it is out there. PH at least ties the purchases to an account. Sure, someone can download and throw them on torrents, but it feels less like leaving the barn door open. As for differentiation, simply, my course will be the best. It's designed to take you from zero to security analyst. Those MIT lectures are taught with chalk and don't lay the foundations properly. The topics are good though, cool to see something on symbolic execution. I want to give people the background knowledge. Like buffer overflows are easy if you understand stack frames, and assembly. I want to teach that stuff first before telling someone to go stumble through an exploitation exercise. I want to do that for every topic.
- techsin101 7y ago
  Are you collecting emails for launch news, if love to check it out when it's out
  - TACIXAT 7y ago
    I am not, but it is https://www.pornhub.com/model/cybering https://www.pornhub.com/model/cybering. Obviously, NSFW. It has the setup module right now, and an in progress command line basics. The topics will get more advanced after I get through the prerequisites. Thanks for checking it out!

otakucode 7y ago

Keep in mind, YouTube recently announced that they're planning on going after computer security information with their claws soon. That means Google doesn't like that information either. Even though PH is very limiting, that would probably be a better option than YouTube because you're very unlikely to ever see a cent from monetization there. I follow a lawyer with a small (100k) YouTube channel and he has to fight tooth and nail with YouTube for every video he uploads, no matter how innocuous. Whether you follow their rules or not, even if you walk on eggshells and avoid everything even remotely controversial, none of it matters. Have you considered Patreon?