I wonder if there is a conflict here because for some people careless statements are reliably at too low a precision to be helpful because one has already consi

I wonder if there is a conflict here because for some people careless statements are reliably at too low a precision to be helpful because one has already considered the topic at higher precision. When you are an expert at something, to improve further you need to hunt down every last mistake you can find. You don't just dismiss logical fallacies as not being germane. Sometimes they don't look germane but actually are for a subtle reason. By contrast, for newbies, even if a fallacy is germane in some subtle way it doesn't matter b/c they aren't learning subtleties.