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Why would the lawyers choose this hill to be the hill they live and die upon? I feel like you're going to have a tough time garnering sympathy for this specific

Why would the lawyers choose this hill to be the hill they live and die upon? I feel like you're going to have a tough time garnering sympathy for this specific case.

Cd00d 7y ago
I guess it's possible that _this hill_ is a particularly good revenue hill.
- guelo 7y ago
  Not as good of a revenue hill as selling all your cell phone usage data.
24gttghh 7y ago
What is particularly wrong with the plaintiff's in this case which proves them to be unworthy of your sympathy?
BonesJustice 7y ago
Perhaps it’s the case they can most easily prove, and/or find enough class members with standing who are willing to get involved.
emiliobumachar 7y ago
Protecting civil liberties generally means defending unsympathetic characters. They always are chosen first, and they must be defended before the precedent is set. By the time encroachers move on to sympathetic characters, it's too late. The encroachment has been normalized, it is in fact normal, and the liberty was lost already. That's not my original thought, but I can't find the original quote. I think it's from the ACLU, from some occasion when Jewish lawyers were defending free speech of neonazis or something.
- crankylinuxuser 7y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_Am... Is the case you're looking for. On its face, ACLU defended Neonazis. A deeper reading is that the ACLU defended the first amendment's rights of speech and of peacably assemble and redress grievances. History: Skokie was a destination for many Jewish peoples who came from the death camps in Germany in WWII. Choosing this site for the march was intentional. However, the march wasn't actually done.
C1sc0cat 7y ago
Why is protecting phone company customers from massive abuse of their data bad ?

Why would the lawyers choose this hill to be the hill they live and die upon? I feel like you're going to have a tough time garnering sympathy for this specific case.

Cd00d 7y ago

I guess it's possible that _this hill_ is a particularly good revenue hill.

guelo 7y ago
Not as good of a revenue hill as selling all your cell phone usage data.

24gttghh 7y ago

What is particularly wrong with the plaintiff's in this case which proves them to be unworthy of your sympathy?

BonesJustice 7y ago

Perhaps it’s the case they can most easily prove, and/or find enough class members with standing who are willing to get involved.

emiliobumachar 7y ago

Protecting civil liberties generally means defending unsympathetic characters. They always are chosen first, and they must be defended before the precedent is set. By the time encroachers move on to sympathetic characters, it's too late. The encroachment has been normalized, it is in fact normal, and the liberty was lost already. That's not my original thought, but I can't find the original quote. I think it's from the ACLU, from some occasion when Jewish lawyers were defending free speech of neonazis or something.

crankylinuxuser 7y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_America_v._Village_of_Skokie https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Socialist_Party_of_Am... Is the case you're looking for. On its face, ACLU defended Neonazis. A deeper reading is that the ACLU defended the first amendment's rights of speech and of peacably assemble and redress grievances. History: Skokie was a destination for many Jewish peoples who came from the death camps in Germany in WWII. Choosing this site for the march was intentional. However, the march wasn't actually done.

C1sc0cat 7y ago

Why is protecting phone company customers from massive abuse of their data bad ?