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As a guy, I sorta find the idea of getting married to a women who is also well educated totally awesome. Two solid sources of income are definitely better than

As a guy, I sorta find the idea of getting married to a women who is also well educated totally awesome. Two solid sources of income are definitely better than one, if only for protection against catastrophic situations, but having nice things is also quite fun. I don't get why we didn't do this years ago >_<. It seems like so many stories report on how this is some kind of shift in the balance of power, role reversal, or the end of masculinity. Why not talk about how awesome it could be if money could now be less of a power issue between two people in a marriage (read: only one person traditionally controls the income now no longer being the case). I think that's completely and totally awesome and good for everybody. Now guys have to be positive contributors to 'loving relationships' instead of just bringing home the bacon...lest women leave them. Whatever makes it harder to be a tool is fine by me. A rising tide lifts all boats. Note: this entire post focuses on marriage between men and women. But I'm guessing the rising position of women could also benefit women in marriages, civil unions, or partnerships as well. I'm kind of outside my area of knowledge making that last remark, but it makes sense to me. Feel free to knock it over.

x09 16y ago
http://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/garbage-generation-by-daniel-amneus.pdf http://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/garbage-generat... [pdf]
lanolin 16y ago
It actually makes very little sense for men to get married (in the USA, anyway) these days. It's simply far too easy for women to 1. become "unhappy", 2. get a no-fault divorce, 3. be awarded primary custody of the kids (this happens somewhere around 80% of the time), 4. take the house, and 5. be awarded large child-support and alimony payments. In the USA, somewhere around half of marriages end in divorce. There is evidence [1] that, among college-educated couples, the percentage of divorces initiated by women is approximately 90%. Many men are blindsided by them. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce#Gender_and_divorce http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce#Gender_and_divorce Very few things in life can be worse for a man than having his kids taken away by a woman with the help of the family courts system. One day you're reading with them on the couch every night, the next you're seeing them only every other weekend. Devastating. I know, I know. Your girl isn't like that. Well, women change when the kids are born and the real work begins.
- grav1tas 16y ago
  While I don't feel like contesting the first few points, because I feel like they might be close to accurate, but your point after 5 is loaded and misleading. I feel you have cherry picked your numbers out of your own source. Here is a complimentary figure to your 90% of divorces instigated by women in scenarios where higher education is had by both couples. "Success in marriage has been associated with higher education and higher age. 81% of college graduates, over 26 years of age, who wed in the 1980s, were still married 20 years later. 65% of college graduates under 26 who married in the 1980s, were still married 20 years later. 49% of high school graduates under 26 years old who married in the 1980s, were still married 20 years later.[27] Population studies have found that in 2004 and 2008, liberal-voting states have lower rates of divorce than conservative-voting states, possibly because people in liberal states tend to wait longer before getting married.[28] In 2009, 2.9% of adults 35-39 without a college degree were divorced, compared with 1.6% with a college education.[29]" So maybe your 90% figure is true, but that is true in a largely reduced set of cases according to the same article.
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x09 16y ago

http://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/garbage-generation-by-daniel-amneus.pdf http://dontmarry.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/garbage-generat... [pdf]

lanolin 16y ago

It actually makes very little sense for men to get married (in the USA, anyway) these days. It's simply far too easy for women to 1. become "unhappy", 2. get a no-fault divorce, 3. be awarded primary custody of the kids (this happens somewhere around 80% of the time), 4. take the house, and 5. be awarded large child-support and alimony payments. In the USA, somewhere around half of marriages end in divorce. There is evidence [1] that, among college-educated couples, the percentage of divorces initiated by women is approximately 90%. Many men are blindsided by them. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce#Gender_and_divorce http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divorce#Gender_and_divorce Very few things in life can be worse for a man than having his kids taken away by a woman with the help of the family courts system. One day you're reading with them on the couch every night, the next you're seeing them only every other weekend. Devastating. I know, I know. Your girl isn't like that. Well, women change when the kids are born and the real work begins.

grav1tas 16y ago
While I don't feel like contesting the first few points, because I feel like they might be close to accurate, but your point after 5 is loaded and misleading. I feel you have cherry picked your numbers out of your own source. Here is a complimentary figure to your 90% of divorces instigated by women in scenarios where higher education is had by both couples. "Success in marriage has been associated with higher education and higher age. 81% of college graduates, over 26 years of age, who wed in the 1980s, were still married 20 years later. 65% of college graduates under 26 who married in the 1980s, were still married 20 years later. 49% of high school graduates under 26 years old who married in the 1980s, were still married 20 years later.[27] Population studies have found that in 2004 and 2008, liberal-voting states have lower rates of divorce than conservative-voting states, possibly because people in liberal states tend to wait longer before getting married.[28] In 2009, 2.9% of adults 35-39 without a college degree were divorced, compared with 1.6% with a college education.[29]" So maybe your 90% figure is true, but that is true in a largely reduced set of cases according to the same article.
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