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How do you explain lunar eclipses (the Earth's shadow is round)? How do you explain retrograde motions of planets? These 2 simple observations explain why we

by sunseb 7y ago

How do you explain lunar eclipses (the Earth's shadow is round)? How do you explain retrograde motions of planets? These 2 simple observations explain why we live on a round Earth that revolves around the Sun. (That said, I am against censorship of any kind. People should be free to believe whatever they want.)

imglorp 7y ago
Not to mention going outside and LOOKING at man made items like satellites and space stations as they pass overhead. How does your GPS work? Get yourself an RTL-SDR and watch the traffic yourself, read the ephemeris, and correlate with your observations. Build your own Focault pendulum, and explain the observations. And hundreds of other phenomena you can observe and measure yourself. There are 18 spacefaring nations. There are hundreds of spacecraft companies with about 3,000 satellites and thousands more launches, spending hundreds of billions $$. If ANY of this was made up, it would involve about a half million people keeping a secret in the conspiracy. (edit - that's just space industry. astronomers, cosmologists, LIGO, EHT, etc, geologists, including the oil companies.. add another million maybe?) So we're either talking about willfull trolling, ignorance, and illness, or malice. I would be more inclined to believe malice, in the form of that family spending millions [1] to spread antivax propaganda. Perhaps it's a more general anti-science thrust to control the populace. There, it's a conspiracy in the opposite direction. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/meet-the-new-york-couple-donating-millions-to-the-anti-vax-movement/2019/06/18/9d791bcc-8e28-11e9-b08e-cfd89bd36d4e_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/meet-...
- JaimeThompson 7y ago
  The FE community basically refuses to do any radio based research. If you ask them why the radio emissions of the Sun go away after it sets they get upset and delete your comments because it goes against their idea that the Sun is just moving away from us and not setting.
ulucs 7y ago
I don't need to, people before Galileo already did :^) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferent_and_epicycle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferent_and_epicycle Just goes to show that with enough variables, you can fit any data you have into any shape you want
masonic 7y ago
lunar eclipses (the Earth's shadow is round)? Pizzas are both flat and create round shadows. retrograde motions of planets? That proves heliocentricity but is unrelated to FE. Perhaps 60+ years of artificial satellites are a better tack.

by sunseb 7y ago

imglorp 7y ago

Not to mention going outside and LOOKING at man made items like satellites and space stations as they pass overhead. How does your GPS work? Get yourself an RTL-SDR and watch the traffic yourself, read the ephemeris, and correlate with your observations. Build your own Focault pendulum, and explain the observations. And hundreds of other phenomena you can observe and measure yourself. There are 18 spacefaring nations. There are hundreds of spacecraft companies with about 3,000 satellites and thousands more launches, spending hundreds of billions $$. If ANY of this was made up, it would involve about a half million people keeping a secret in the conspiracy. (edit - that's just space industry. astronomers, cosmologists, LIGO, EHT, etc, geologists, including the oil companies.. add another million maybe?) So we're either talking about willfull trolling, ignorance, and illness, or malice. I would be more inclined to believe malice, in the form of that family spending millions [1] to spread antivax propaganda. Perhaps it's a more general anti-science thrust to control the populace. There, it's a conspiracy in the opposite direction. https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/meet-the-new-york-couple-donating-millions-to-the-anti-vax-movement/2019/06/18/9d791bcc-8e28-11e9-b08e-cfd89bd36d4e_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/meet-...

JaimeThompson 7y ago
The FE community basically refuses to do any radio based research. If you ask them why the radio emissions of the Sun go away after it sets they get upset and delete your comments because it goes against their idea that the Sun is just moving away from us and not setting.

ulucs 7y ago

I don't need to, people before Galileo already did :^) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferent_and_epicycle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deferent_and_epicycle Just goes to show that with enough variables, you can fit any data you have into any shape you want

masonic 7y ago

lunar eclipses (the Earth's shadow is round)? Pizzas are both flat and create round shadows. retrograde motions of planets? That proves heliocentricity but is unrelated to FE. Perhaps 60+ years of artificial satellites are a better tack.