I suspect you've listened to overproduced podcasts. I don't care for those. NPRs are like that. Reed Hoffman's Masters of Scale podcast is a textbook example of

I suspect you've listened to overproduced podcasts. I don't care for those. NPRs are like that. Reed Hoffman's Masters of Scale podcast is a textbook example of what I don't like. Dan Carlin, of Hardcore History, a very longform podcast, was interviewed by someone once and asked about producing his podcast. He actually does a lot of producing but it's very subtle. Things I didn't consciously notice until I had heard him talk about those. So maybe try some high quality (e.g. clear audio, recorded well), but not overproduced podcasts with all the bells and whistles. At this point you can find one like that for any topic you maybe interested in.