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> I know plenty of people who critized the government for decisions around and after 2015, publicly even, and none of them were raided, sued, fined or jailed fo

by s9w 7y ago

> I know plenty of people who critized the government for decisions around and after 2015, publicly even, and none of them were raided, sued, fined or jailed for it. That doesn't mean that these things don't happen. Just one recent example: https://www.einprozent.de/blog/meinungsfreiheit/friedlicher-protest-fuehrt-zu-hausdurchsuchung/2488 https://www.einprozent.de/blog/meinungsfreiheit/friedlicher-... or this: https://www.vice.com/de/article/8xe7jg/kuchen-tv-volksverhetzung-geldstrafe-rostocker-gericht https://www.vice.com/de/article/8xe7jg/kuchen-tv-volksverhet...

zaarn 7y ago
Your first link goes to a blog that's operated by a known right-wing extremist who is part of the Neuen Rechten and the AfD. The second link is some youtuber doing something that is either extremely dumb or very right-wing and rightfully earned him a visit at the nearest courthouse.
- s9w 7y ago
  You are free to find other sources, the facts remain the same. I can't talk about (these) political parties without being banned. If you really think that the guy deserves an unjust sentence for being right-wing, then I'm afraid of people like you. That is exactly what this argument was about: Political opposition being silenced.
  - zaarn 7y ago
    I'm not afraid of right wing people, I just despite right wing extremists. I don't have to look for any sources, you have to convinve me if anything. People rightfully get just sentences for following a party focused on the very same politics that plunged Europe into a second world war.
    - s9w 7y ago
      So you do want to punish people for simply being the (democratically elected) political opposition, hence proving my point. I think I'll run the other way now.
      - eropple 7y ago
        The political opposition was not democratically elected. They were elected by the rules--well, modulo foreign interference by their handlers--but that doesn't make it democratic and doesn't make it right and only serves to underline the stranglehold a vocally threatening minority holds on the system. This is a recurring theme for the right wing in America. There's little reason to respect or trust their good intentions; fascists are an autoimmune disease of liberalism and they are demonstrating nearly every symptom.

by s9w 7y ago

zaarn 7y ago

Your first link goes to a blog that's operated by a known right-wing extremist who is part of the Neuen Rechten and the AfD. The second link is some youtuber doing something that is either extremely dumb or very right-wing and rightfully earned him a visit at the nearest courthouse.

s9w 7y ago
You are free to find other sources, the facts remain the same. I can't talk about (these) political parties without being banned. If you really think that the guy deserves an unjust sentence for being right-wing, then I'm afraid of people like you. That is exactly what this argument was about: Political opposition being silenced.
- zaarn 7y ago
  I'm not afraid of right wing people, I just despite right wing extremists. I don't have to look for any sources, you have to convinve me if anything. People rightfully get just sentences for following a party focused on the very same politics that plunged Europe into a second world war.
  - s9w 7y ago
    So you do want to punish people for simply being the (democratically elected) political opposition, hence proving my point. I think I'll run the other way now.
    - eropple 7y ago
      The political opposition was not democratically elected. They were elected by the rules--well, modulo foreign interference by their handlers--but that doesn't make it democratic and doesn't make it right and only serves to underline the stranglehold a vocally threatening minority holds on the system. This is a recurring theme for the right wing in America. There's little reason to respect or trust their good intentions; fascists are an autoimmune disease of liberalism and they are demonstrating nearly every symptom.