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"F-droid should simply follow US law" Why would they want to do that? They're a uk-based company. Judging by your typing you're not a native English speaker ei

"F-droid should simply follow US law" Why would they want to do that? They're a uk-based company. Judging by your typing you're not a native English speaker either. So why pick the US?

rmtech 7y ago
What does UK law say on the subject?
- panpanna 7y ago
  Same as EU: hate speech may result in fines and jail time.
redder2 7y ago
I do not knew they where UK based. Why US law: Because like I said the US has the best laws in the world when it comes to freedom of speech, press ... in fact there is not other country that I know of that has "Freedom of Speech" defined like that in its constitution. They should move the HQ to the US then ;) For that reason that would be ideal. I love the concept of making everything legal to say because its leads to a more free society. But the US Government is working to destroy the constitution with all its power ever since. Brett Kavanaugh wrote a opinion on why he thinks the NSA spying on the world is within the constitution to name just one thing. And yes I am not native English speaker. What gave it away? In Germany for example you not only go to jail here if you do not believe the holocaust (I for sure do) happened exactly like its in the history books, you go to jail if you question any single detail about it! In fact you are not allowed to try to make a case that includes "evidence" about it to make your case in court. A women went to jail for exactly that! I find that disgusting to jail people to believe in whatever BS or not they want to believe in. It starts WAY before "denial". Just maybe (I for sure to not believe it) there were some things that were not 100% correctly recorded. And we know the the winner always writes the history. So I do think its way healthier to have a open discussion about it instead of overreactions like that. They are ousted and punished in the court of public opinion anyway, jailing people for having the wrong opinions about things is exactly where the SJW PC crowd wants the world to move to and the perfect counter to that is US law! And it may sound silly but I can see a resemblance with modern leftist ideology that you are not allowed to question parents who gender switch their kinds b4 they even know what sexuality is and extreme things like that that creep into the mainstream more and more. Or that a Steven Crowder is not allowed to earn money anymore on YT even though he did not brake any guidelines as they have admitted. He is not allowed to make fun of a gay and call him queer when he called himself that on twitter or whatever that was. While saying people should be milkshaked he campaigns of getting "Nazis" removed from the internet. These kind of people are now moving their bullshit into the software world. Or that you are not allowed to simply do not like gay people. Like I said I think hate is legal and modern life happens in social media so why crate new laws for it instead of making social media the public square that is already is and giving it the same law that the US has for a public square. If you have somebody expressing opinions you deem offensive on the streets you can not lawfully remove them, what the cops actually do is a different story and may lead to payouts later if the cops to unlawful arrests.
- iamnotacrook 7y ago
  "the US has the best laws in the world when it comes to freedom of speech, press" Some people do like to say stuff like that, don't they? There's actually precious little which can be written/published/broadcast in the USA which is prohibited is most other countries; certainly not western ones. I don't remember the last time a writer had to claim asylum in the USA from France or Portugal or the UK to get their ideas published. Sure, there are restrictions on denying the holocaust; libel laws differ from country to country. "They should move the HQ to the US then ;) For that reason that would be ideal." You think if f-droid moved to the US they'd suddenly want to be hate-speech enablers? How have you managed to read the linked-to page and do all that typing without comprehending that f-droid didn't pull access to that app because they live in an oppressive dictatorship where you have no freedom of speech, but because they decided it was the right thing to do?
  - redder2 7y ago
    "I don't remember the last time a writer had to claim asylum in the USA from France or Portugal or the UK to get their ideas published." That's a rally bad argument because you would never happen to know any writer with opinions that are that controversial because someone wound never even get to be known. And also why does it has to be a writer? "Sure, there are restrictions on denying the holocaust" You say that as ifs not a big deal because you do not get it. That is the entire point. In the US you can say and publish petty much everything that is opinion based as long as you not call for violence against someone. And if they are public persons you can even say pretty despicable things about them. Its actually pretty simple and nowhere else it is that way and clearly and simply definded straight to the point like that. That is why people like to say it because its true. But social media is writing its own laws now and they hate freedom even fdroid now. Twitter based on some stupid UN SJW bullshit for example. There is no Free Speech in Germany and elsewhere in supposedly "free" countries. And the UK is actually very horrible, total surveillance state prosecuting people for doing journalism ... it quite fits the Gap is from there but if pretty much could be anywhere. Tech is infested with SJW types. WordPress got already censored by them. Linux has some stupid code of conduct now when you have to cuddle everyone ... its clear that happens. We well see countries writing stuff into laws soon and then these laws will be used again the people who wanted them in when the next administration has its go with them. Would be fun to watch if not so fucking annoying to say "told you so" all the time.

"F-droid should simply follow US law" Why would they want to do that? They're a uk-based company. Judging by your typing you're not a native English speaker either. So why pick the US?

rmtech 7y ago

What does UK law say on the subject?

panpanna 7y ago
Same as EU: hate speech may result in fines and jail time.

redder2 7y ago

I do not knew they where UK based. Why US law: Because like I said the US has the best laws in the world when it comes to freedom of speech, press ... in fact there is not other country that I know of that has "Freedom of Speech" defined like that in its constitution. They should move the HQ to the US then ;) For that reason that would be ideal. I love the concept of making everything legal to say because its leads to a more free society. But the US Government is working to destroy the constitution with all its power ever since. Brett Kavanaugh wrote a opinion on why he thinks the NSA spying on the world is within the constitution to name just one thing. And yes I am not native English speaker. What gave it away? In Germany for example you not only go to jail here if you do not believe the holocaust (I for sure do) happened exactly like its in the history books, you go to jail if you question any single detail about it! In fact you are not allowed to try to make a case that includes "evidence" about it to make your case in court. A women went to jail for exactly that! I find that disgusting to jail people to believe in whatever BS or not they want to believe in. It starts WAY before "denial". Just maybe (I for sure to not believe it) there were some things that were not 100% correctly recorded. And we know the the winner always writes the history. So I do think its way healthier to have a open discussion about it instead of overreactions like that. They are ousted and punished in the court of public opinion anyway, jailing people for having the wrong opinions about things is exactly where the SJW PC crowd wants the world to move to and the perfect counter to that is US law! And it may sound silly but I can see a resemblance with modern leftist ideology that you are not allowed to question parents who gender switch their kinds b4 they even know what sexuality is and extreme things like that that creep into the mainstream more and more. Or that a Steven Crowder is not allowed to earn money anymore on YT even though he did not brake any guidelines as they have admitted. He is not allowed to make fun of a gay and call him queer when he called himself that on twitter or whatever that was. While saying people should be milkshaked he campaigns of getting "Nazis" removed from the internet. These kind of people are now moving their bullshit into the software world. Or that you are not allowed to simply do not like gay people. Like I said I think hate is legal and modern life happens in social media so why crate new laws for it instead of making social media the public square that is already is and giving it the same law that the US has for a public square. If you have somebody expressing opinions you deem offensive on the streets you can not lawfully remove them, what the cops actually do is a different story and may lead to payouts later if the cops to unlawful arrests.

iamnotacrook 7y ago
"the US has the best laws in the world when it comes to freedom of speech, press" Some people do like to say stuff like that, don't they? There's actually precious little which can be written/published/broadcast in the USA which is prohibited is most other countries; certainly not western ones. I don't remember the last time a writer had to claim asylum in the USA from France or Portugal or the UK to get their ideas published. Sure, there are restrictions on denying the holocaust; libel laws differ from country to country. "They should move the HQ to the US then ;) For that reason that would be ideal." You think if f-droid moved to the US they'd suddenly want to be hate-speech enablers? How have you managed to read the linked-to page and do all that typing without comprehending that f-droid didn't pull access to that app because they live in an oppressive dictatorship where you have no freedom of speech, but because they decided it was the right thing to do?
- redder2 7y ago
  "I don't remember the last time a writer had to claim asylum in the USA from France or Portugal or the UK to get their ideas published." That's a rally bad argument because you would never happen to know any writer with opinions that are that controversial because someone wound never even get to be known. And also why does it has to be a writer? "Sure, there are restrictions on denying the holocaust" You say that as ifs not a big deal because you do not get it. That is the entire point. In the US you can say and publish petty much everything that is opinion based as long as you not call for violence against someone. And if they are public persons you can even say pretty despicable things about them. Its actually pretty simple and nowhere else it is that way and clearly and simply definded straight to the point like that. That is why people like to say it because its true. But social media is writing its own laws now and they hate freedom even fdroid now. Twitter based on some stupid UN SJW bullshit for example. There is no Free Speech in Germany and elsewhere in supposedly "free" countries. And the UK is actually very horrible, total surveillance state prosecuting people for doing journalism ... it quite fits the Gap is from there but if pretty much could be anywhere. Tech is infested with SJW types. WordPress got already censored by them. Linux has some stupid code of conduct now when you have to cuddle everyone ... its clear that happens. We well see countries writing stuff into laws soon and then these laws will be used again the people who wanted them in when the next administration has its go with them. Would be fun to watch if not so fucking annoying to say "told you so" all the time.