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There's a key difference in that the camps are actually about reeducation/brainwashing (or at least forced conversion away from Islam), as opposed to systematic

There's a key difference in that the camps are actually about reeducation/brainwashing (or at least forced conversion away from Islam), as opposed to systematic slaughter of said minorities.

PavlovsCat 7y ago
> as opposed to systematic slaughter of said minorities. By "early Nazis"? No. And the purpose isn't restricted to the people in them, it goes way beyond murder. > While the separation of inmates into categories was merely a tactical-organisatory measure for the the purpose of administration of the camps, the arbitrariness of committal demonstrates the essential principle of the institution as such. The existance of a political opposition is just a pretext for the concentration camp system, and its purpose is not achieved when the population more or less voluntarily conforms as consequence of the most monstrous deterrence, that is, to give up its political rights. The arbitrariness has the purpose to deprive those under the totalitarian regime of all their rights as citizens, which finally become as outlawed [vogelfrei] in their own country as otherwise only the stateless and homeless. The deprivation of humans of their rights, the killing of the juridical person in them is just a precondition of their being totally controlled, for which even voluntary agreement is a hindrance. -- Hannah Arendt That was true in China even before those camps, and that people with a cartoon understanding of history, concentration camps, Nazism, just about anything related to this, roll their eyes at "making" someone a "villain" is as predictable as it's their own fault.
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OscarCunningham 7y ago
If you read the reports from the camps you see that there is a very high death rate. For example this woman (https://www.apnews.com/61cdf7f5dfc34575aa643523b3c6b3fe https://www.apnews.com/61cdf7f5dfc34575aa643523b3c6b3fe) claims that 9 of the 60 women in her cell died over the course of three months. Extrapolate that over 2000000 people being held and it's clear that this is genocide.

There's a key difference in that the camps are actually about reeducation/brainwashing (or at least forced conversion away from Islam), as opposed to systematic slaughter of said minorities.

PavlovsCat 7y ago

> as opposed to systematic slaughter of said minorities. By "early Nazis"? No. And the purpose isn't restricted to the people in them, it goes way beyond murder. > While the separation of inmates into categories was merely a tactical-organisatory measure for the the purpose of administration of the camps, the arbitrariness of committal demonstrates the essential principle of the institution as such. The existance of a political opposition is just a pretext for the concentration camp system, and its purpose is not achieved when the population more or less voluntarily conforms as consequence of the most monstrous deterrence, that is, to give up its political rights. The arbitrariness has the purpose to deprive those under the totalitarian regime of all their rights as citizens, which finally become as outlawed [vogelfrei] in their own country as otherwise only the stateless and homeless. The deprivation of humans of their rights, the killing of the juridical person in them is just a precondition of their being totally controlled, for which even voluntary agreement is a hindrance. -- Hannah Arendt That was true in China even before those camps, and that people with a cartoon understanding of history, concentration camps, Nazism, just about anything related to this, roll their eyes at "making" someone a "villain" is as predictable as it's their own fault.

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OscarCunningham 7y ago

If you read the reports from the camps you see that there is a very high death rate. For example this woman (https://www.apnews.com/61cdf7f5dfc34575aa643523b3c6b3fe https://www.apnews.com/61cdf7f5dfc34575aa643523b3c6b3fe) claims that 9 of the 60 women in her cell died over the course of three months. Extrapolate that over 2000000 people being held and it's clear that this is genocide.