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1Password uses the HIBP API too [0] which has actually saved me a few times. The mechanics behind the v2 API (using k-anonymity with hashes [1]) are pretty int

1Password uses the HIBP API too [0] which has actually saved me a few times. The mechanics behind the v2 API (using k-anonymity with hashes [1]) are pretty interesting too. Troy has clearly put a lot of thought and time into what started as a pet project a few years ago and should be infinitely commended! [0] https://blog.1password.com/finding-pwned-passwords-with-1password/ https://blog.1password.com/finding-pwned-passwords-with-1pas... [1] https://www.troyhunt.com/ive-just-launched-pwned-passwords-version-2/ https://www.troyhunt.com/ive-just-launched-pwned-passwords-v...

waynesonfire 7y ago
I just read through 1Password release notes [0], "Addressed a bug in the new popup where items were checked for vulnerable passwords even if you hadn't opted in to the Have I Been Pwned service." which also links to a KB article that talks about the security risks of HIBP [1] I would be very concerned if my credentials are being shared in _any_ form with 3rd parties without my explicit permissions. I hope this firefox feature is disabled by default. [0] https://app-updates.agilebits.com/product_history/B5X https://app-updates.agilebits.com/product_history/B5X [1] https://support.1password.com/kb/201907/ https://support.1password.com/kb/201907/
- groovecoder 7y ago
  Disclaimer: I'm the Firefox sec engineer working on this feature. Just to clear this up: The code for this is actually way simpler and sends no data to either Mozilla nor HIBP. To prevent Firefox from sending data update pings to HIBP, Firefox Monitor maintains a copy of publicly available HIBP breaches and their metadata [1] in the Firefox "Remote Settings" service. [2] Using that data, Firefox simply checks for saved logins for breached sites where the saved password is older than the breach. [3] [1] https://haveibeenpwned.com/api/v2/breaches https://haveibeenpwned.com/api/v2/breaches [2] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/RemoteSettings https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/RemoteSettings [3] https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/6484c07ff83649914781ddc9cfb70e98466cdd7a/browser/components/aboutlogins/AboutLoginsParent.jsm#l377 https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/6484c07ff8364991...
  - MrStonedOne 7y ago
    This explanation confused me, so let me rewrite it: "Firefox downloads a list of breached domain names and the date they were breached, and merely checks if you have any stored logins on any breached domains that are older then the breach date."
- MrStonedOne 7y ago
  Credentials are not shared under the hibp password system. the first five characters of the hex encoded md5 of the password is shared and the server responds with matching hashes. If 20 bits (2 and a half characters) of hashed entropy can compromise your password you have bigger problems.

waynesonfire 7y ago

I just read through 1Password release notes [0], "Addressed a bug in the new popup where items were checked for vulnerable passwords even if you hadn't opted in to the Have I Been Pwned service." which also links to a KB article that talks about the security risks of HIBP [1] I would be very concerned if my credentials are being shared in _any_ form with 3rd parties without my explicit permissions. I hope this firefox feature is disabled by default. [0] https://app-updates.agilebits.com/product_history/B5X https://app-updates.agilebits.com/product_history/B5X [1] https://support.1password.com/kb/201907/ https://support.1password.com/kb/201907/

groovecoder 7y ago
Disclaimer: I'm the Firefox sec engineer working on this feature. Just to clear this up: The code for this is actually way simpler and sends no data to either Mozilla nor HIBP. To prevent Firefox from sending data update pings to HIBP, Firefox Monitor maintains a copy of publicly available HIBP breaches and their metadata [1] in the Firefox "Remote Settings" service. [2] Using that data, Firefox simply checks for saved logins for breached sites where the saved password is older than the breach. [3] [1] https://haveibeenpwned.com/api/v2/breaches https://haveibeenpwned.com/api/v2/breaches [2] https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/RemoteSettings https://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox/RemoteSettings [3] https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/6484c07ff83649914781ddc9cfb70e98466cdd7a/browser/components/aboutlogins/AboutLoginsParent.jsm#l377 https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/file/6484c07ff8364991...
- MrStonedOne 7y ago
  This explanation confused me, so let me rewrite it: "Firefox downloads a list of breached domain names and the date they were breached, and merely checks if you have any stored logins on any breached domains that are older then the breach date."
MrStonedOne 7y ago
Credentials are not shared under the hibp password system. the first five characters of the hex encoded md5 of the password is shared and the server responds with matching hashes. If 20 bits (2 and a half characters) of hashed entropy can compromise your password you have bigger problems.