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Lessons from the past, present, and future of animation
- tzakrajs 7y agoSteamboat Willie was a minstrel cartoon — a cartoon with a deviously racist past. I suppose it can be the lead photograph for your blog post too, but why? Edit: Interesting how most any comment I make on HackerNews indicting the history of racism is heavily downvoted. Uncomfortable facts are often deemed irrelevant, uninteresting or inflammatory to those whose beliefs are most challenged. I’m not going anywhere.
- themattress 7y agohttps://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mickey-mouse-racial-caricature/ https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/mickey-mouse-racial-carica... While I agree with your sentiment, I don’t know about this case.
- ZeroGravitas 7y agoYou should read the article you linked, since it supports the idea. The only bit it debunks is the specific image cited, which is in turn a modern comment on the pre-existing links.
- themattress 7y agoAhh you’re right, that’s what I get for skimming.
- bayonettedFetus 7y agoCram a fat dick in your face and shut the fuck up, you fucking menstruating vulva.
- dang 7y agoCherry-picking the most provocative bit from an article and hauling it in here for ignition is not using HN as intended. It's particularly damaging to do that when there isn't any discussion yet, because threads are sensitive to initial conditions. Would you please review the site guidelines and take the spirit of this place more to heart? They include: "Eschew flamebait. Don't introduce flamewar topics unless you have something genuinely new to say. Avoid unrelated controversies and generic tangents." https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html The high-order bit on HN is: what kind of discussion is anything likely to lead to? Are we going to get a curious conversation about (in this case) animation? Or yet another bitter battle about (in this case) race? HN is for the former, not the latter—we're interested in things that haven't been repeated countless times already. All scorched earth is the same. Edit: Unfortunately it looks like it looks like you've been posting this sort of ideological battle-bait quite a bit: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20451846 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20451846, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20429974 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20429974. And we've had to warn you before. If you can't or don't want to use HN as intended, we're going to have ban you. I don't want to do that, so please fix this.
- tzakrajs 7y agoIf you want to normalize hate, I can't stop you but I certainly won't stop being critical of racist shit I see posted here. Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this. I will try to play it more safe in the future. Also the novelty of my comment was the connection to minstrel cartoons which is adjacent to the topic of animation. Not many people know this. It's not like I am just making random shit up.
- dang 7y agoI don't want to normalize hate. If you know something about animation that other people don't know, that's great and of course you should share it. But how you go about it matters. If you share it in a bomb-throwing way that's guaranteed to start a flamewar, any curiosity in your comment will be the first thing to vaporize. Curiosity always is.
- theandrewbailey 7y ago> In 1995, with the release date of Toy Story nearing, Katzenberg visited with his old friend John Lasseter and asked him what Pixar's next project would be. Lasseter told Katzenberg about a film surrounding a group of insects and the world they inhabit. This film would eventually become A Bug's Life. > Later that year, Katzenberg and Dreamworks announced that it would be releasing Antz, the studio's first 3D animated film about... a group of insects and the world they inhabit. I always suspected that there was something going on between those movies. There it is.