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Wouldn't "fixing" healthcare cause a big reduction in not just doctors salaries but the amount of profits doctors offices make Not sure how much they ding my h

Wouldn't "fixing" healthcare cause a big reduction in not just doctors salaries but the amount of profits doctors offices make Not sure how much they ding my health insurance company for when I got in for a ten minute visit and see the doctor for maybe 5.

wmil 7y ago
Basically yes. In theory you can reduce costs by going after the chunk of healthcare funding that ends up going to lawyers, insurance companies, medical billing experts, etc. But trying to claw back funding from the first two never seems to work out.
arcticbull 7y ago
Yeah, and that's okay. Nobody's owed compensation at a specific level, and moving forward, medical professionals would be more public servants than rock stars. That's not to say they'd be paid badly, Canadian doctors under the single-payer model make $250-500K CAD and have much lower expenses as malpractice insurance is socialized too.
- tryptophan 7y ago
  I vote we go after software engineers next! We won't earn as much, but hey, we will be able to feel good about being public servants. Its always easy to throw others under the bus... Look at what happened to the education profession. It used to be good, but its slowly been getting worse and worse. Now its generally the C students that go into education. > That's not to say they'd be paid badly, Canadian doctors under the single-payer model make $250-500K CAD Only because if they got paid less, they could move 50 miles south and get paid 2x.
  - arcticbull 7y ago
    If you can make a good case for socializing software engineering, then I'm all ears, but I've yet to hear a good one. The difference is that a software engineer doesn't control directly the life or death of another, and doesn't provide a service we all need to maintain basic function and that of society. Health care should be a human right, some letters on a screen less so. > Only because if they got paid less, they could move 50 miles south and get paid 2x. That sounds like a market would exist regardless, does it not? Canadian physicians have little interest in working in the US because they want to serve people based on their needs and not sentencing them to death based on their inability to pay. There are serious moral issues doctors in America are payed handsomely to ignore. The interesting thing is you're arguing against your own interests here.
dragonwriter 7y ago
> Wouldn't "fixing" healthcare cause a big reduction in not just doctors salaries but the amount of profits doctors offices make Possibly, though there are a lot of other total cost drivers besides provider profits. Also, part of the profit requirement for providers is, in effect, risk premium for payment uncertainty caused by our multipayer, far from universal coverage, different policy rules system.

wmil 7y ago

Basically yes. In theory you can reduce costs by going after the chunk of healthcare funding that ends up going to lawyers, insurance companies, medical billing experts, etc. But trying to claw back funding from the first two never seems to work out.

arcticbull 7y ago

Yeah, and that's okay. Nobody's owed compensation at a specific level, and moving forward, medical professionals would be more public servants than rock stars. That's not to say they'd be paid badly, Canadian doctors under the single-payer model make $250-500K CAD and have much lower expenses as malpractice insurance is socialized too.

tryptophan 7y ago
I vote we go after software engineers next! We won't earn as much, but hey, we will be able to feel good about being public servants. Its always easy to throw others under the bus... Look at what happened to the education profession. It used to be good, but its slowly been getting worse and worse. Now its generally the C students that go into education. > That's not to say they'd be paid badly, Canadian doctors under the single-payer model make $250-500K CAD Only because if they got paid less, they could move 50 miles south and get paid 2x.
- arcticbull 7y ago
  If you can make a good case for socializing software engineering, then I'm all ears, but I've yet to hear a good one. The difference is that a software engineer doesn't control directly the life or death of another, and doesn't provide a service we all need to maintain basic function and that of society. Health care should be a human right, some letters on a screen less so. > Only because if they got paid less, they could move 50 miles south and get paid 2x. That sounds like a market would exist regardless, does it not? Canadian physicians have little interest in working in the US because they want to serve people based on their needs and not sentencing them to death based on their inability to pay. There are serious moral issues doctors in America are payed handsomely to ignore. The interesting thing is you're arguing against your own interests here.

dragonwriter 7y ago

> Wouldn't "fixing" healthcare cause a big reduction in not just doctors salaries but the amount of profits doctors offices make Possibly, though there are a lot of other total cost drivers besides provider profits. Also, part of the profit requirement for providers is, in effect, risk premium for payment uncertainty caused by our multipayer, far from universal coverage, different policy rules system.