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Does anyone know the exact requirements set by China on google for them to enter the Chinese market? I suppose adherence to Chinese law but what exactly? Suppor

by chvid 7y ago

Does anyone know the exact requirements set by China on google for them to enter the Chinese market? I suppose adherence to Chinese law but what exactly? Support of law enforcement, censorship of specific sites, personal data stored in China etc...

xxxpupugo 7y ago
Only thing I know was Google tried to bring Play Store to Chinese market, sometimes last year, but for some reason that doesn't come to fruit. Under Xi, there is zero chance Google can have a public service offering in any way, considering its history.
- 420codebro 7y ago
  Good. Maybe China will go a step further and completely isolate themselves from the internet. Nothing of value would be lost.
wil421 7y ago
Handing over whatever special sauce Google uses for Dragon Fly to a Chinese owned company or “joint” venture.
iamnotacrook 7y ago
Does anyone know whether there are in fact "exact requirements" at all, or whether you just have informal off the record chats with officials where you're given to understand that it would be "looked upon favourably" if this or happens or does not happen. From everything I've read about how China operates it's sort of the exact opposite in one sense from the west. In the west there are rules and there are loopholes around the rules. In China they are sort of more pragmatic - they want to protect growth & security and resist foreign interference whether cultural or religious; what's written as a rule or law or whatever isn't such a big deal; there's an understanding that you just do what you're told in that context. So they don't mind Google operating there but if Google run operations which "threaten orderliness" then it's going to have a hard time.
- curt15 7y ago
  >From everything I've read about how China operates it's sort of the exact opposite in one sense from the west. The main differences can be summarized as "rule of law" versus "rule of people". Also connections with someone in the upper levels of gov't are paramount for any company looking to make it big. Source: Chinese family members.
  - chvid 7y ago
    Ok. But a big project like this has to gather its requirements somehow. Do google then have dialogue with a representative of the government? Bing and outlook is (or was at least around 2015) accessible and localized in mainland China. I wonder how they did it?
pzone 7y ago
Clear unambiguous rule of law? Dream on, this is China we're talking about!

by chvid 7y ago

xxxpupugo 7y ago

Only thing I know was Google tried to bring Play Store to Chinese market, sometimes last year, but for some reason that doesn't come to fruit. Under Xi, there is zero chance Google can have a public service offering in any way, considering its history.

420codebro 7y ago
Good. Maybe China will go a step further and completely isolate themselves from the internet. Nothing of value would be lost.

wil421 7y ago

Handing over whatever special sauce Google uses for Dragon Fly to a Chinese owned company or “joint” venture.

iamnotacrook 7y ago

Does anyone know whether there are in fact "exact requirements" at all, or whether you just have informal off the record chats with officials where you're given to understand that it would be "looked upon favourably" if this or happens or does not happen. From everything I've read about how China operates it's sort of the exact opposite in one sense from the west. In the west there are rules and there are loopholes around the rules. In China they are sort of more pragmatic - they want to protect growth & security and resist foreign interference whether cultural or religious; what's written as a rule or law or whatever isn't such a big deal; there's an understanding that you just do what you're told in that context. So they don't mind Google operating there but if Google run operations which "threaten orderliness" then it's going to have a hard time.

curt15 7y ago
>From everything I've read about how China operates it's sort of the exact opposite in one sense from the west. The main differences can be summarized as "rule of law" versus "rule of people". Also connections with someone in the upper levels of gov't are paramount for any company looking to make it big. Source: Chinese family members.
- chvid 7y ago
  Ok. But a big project like this has to gather its requirements somehow. Do google then have dialogue with a representative of the government? Bing and outlook is (or was at least around 2015) accessible and localized in mainland China. I wonder how they did it?

pzone 7y ago

Clear unambiguous rule of law? Dream on, this is China we're talking about!