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I was excited until I saw the licence...

by ph0rque 18y ago

tjweir 18y ago
I agree, charging even for non-commercial use is a bit disappointing.
chaostheory 18y ago
yeah... didnt't notice till now =/
ocskills 18y ago
$3 for a site really isn't that bad, all things considered. It's less than many image downloads on istockphoto.
- chaostheory 18y ago
  it's not the price i'm worried about... it's more like what if this guy gets run over by a truck one day? can anyone else make fixes/enhancements to the code? Do I have to keep paying for future updates? (I didn't read the license...) the more i think about it the more I regret posting this... not to mention for most ppl on this site, they will want the $50-255 dollar license and not the $3 version
  - aja2 18y ago
    This is probably the best tooltip script around today, the amount of detailing that went into this exceptional. I think he has every right to ask a price for it. That also shows he has the intention to maintain it. You can't create the same thing for that price, unless you work for less then $0,25 hour. Getting something like this working cross browser takes a lot of time. Even for commercial use, this is a bargain.
    - chaostheory 18y ago
      i'm not saying he has or doesn't have a right to charge for something - just like MS charges for VS2008. I'm just saying that this doesn't cater to my self interest in the long run. I haven't seen any other tool tips this good in the open source world, but I'd rather use something good enough open source than use something closed; given history open source will catch up sooner or later
      - aja2 18y ago
        Don't feel bad about posting it, I'm sure it caters other peoples needs, like mine. I've taken a look at his other scripts, great stuff, frequent updates. I don't think open source will be catching up any time soon.
        chaostheory 18y ago
        frequent updates yes... but you need $299 up-front to take advantage of it, unless you feel like continually giving $50...
        royty 18y ago
        For unlimited use $295 is a good price. As a programmer, I couldn't code it for that. I think others using this on a commercial basis would agree.
      - DougBTX 18y ago
        These are JavaScript tooltips, it isn't some breakthrough technology. Your company won't collapse if the guy disappears. If his stuff is better than the open source stuff, go for it. You can always move to the open source code later. And think, by then it might have caught up with him, and you'll only have to update your code once, rather than each step as the open source code catches up (assuming it does).
        chaostheory 18y ago
        good point
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briansmith 18y ago
I am excited because of the license. If he is successful then that means that other programmers respect and appreciate his work as a programmer to exchange money for it. That means that other programmers (me, in particular) have a chance of making money by selling software, potentially even to other programmers. It is amazing to me that so many programmers refuse to purchase any software, unless it comes bundled with a hardware purchase (Mac OS X, Windows). Hardware is worth hundreds or thousands of dollars but software is worth nothing?
- DougBTX 18y ago
  If you want to sell this sort of stuff, you should aim it at .Net programmers. As generalising as this may sound, they are used to paying money for software, so are more likely to buy yours. Not so in the open source world. Naturally, you'll want to buy yourself a copy of Visual Studio, probably buy a copy of ReSharper as well, to get yourself started.
- ph0rque 18y ago
  Whatever you pay for the licence, you don't get to modify the code (unless I'm misunderstanding what "no-derivative" means). That's what "de-excited" me about it.
  - royty 18y ago
    For all non open-source projects it makes sense to have a no-derivative works license. You would be putting yourself out of business without it. Awesome script, I'll definitely be using it in some projects.
    - briansmith 18y ago
      I agree that it makes sense to prohibit the distribution of modified copies, but it is usually better to let people modify the software as long as they keep those modifications internal.

I was excited until I saw the licence...

by ph0rque 18y ago

I was excited until I saw the licence...

tjweir 18y ago

I agree, charging even for non-commercial use is a bit disappointing.

chaostheory 18y ago

yeah... didnt't notice till now =/

ocskills 18y ago

$3 for a site really isn't that bad, all things considered. It's less than many image downloads on istockphoto.

chaostheory 18y ago
it's not the price i'm worried about... it's more like what if this guy gets run over by a truck one day? can anyone else make fixes/enhancements to the code? Do I have to keep paying for future updates? (I didn't read the license...) the more i think about it the more I regret posting this... not to mention for most ppl on this site, they will want the $50-255 dollar license and not the $3 version
- aja2 18y ago
  This is probably the best tooltip script around today, the amount of detailing that went into this exceptional. I think he has every right to ask a price for it. That also shows he has the intention to maintain it. You can't create the same thing for that price, unless you work for less then $0,25 hour. Getting something like this working cross browser takes a lot of time. Even for commercial use, this is a bargain.
  - chaostheory 18y ago
    i'm not saying he has or doesn't have a right to charge for something - just like MS charges for VS2008. I'm just saying that this doesn't cater to my self interest in the long run. I haven't seen any other tool tips this good in the open source world, but I'd rather use something good enough open source than use something closed; given history open source will catch up sooner or later
    - aja2 18y ago
      Don't feel bad about posting it, I'm sure it caters other peoples needs, like mine. I've taken a look at his other scripts, great stuff, frequent updates. I don't think open source will be catching up any time soon.
      - chaostheory 18y ago
        frequent updates yes... but you need $299 up-front to take advantage of it, unless you feel like continually giving $50...
        royty 18y ago
        For unlimited use $295 is a good price. As a programmer, I couldn't code it for that. I think others using this on a commercial basis would agree.
    - DougBTX 18y ago
      These are JavaScript tooltips, it isn't some breakthrough technology. Your company won't collapse if the guy disappears. If his stuff is better than the open source stuff, go for it. You can always move to the open source code later. And think, by then it might have caught up with him, and you'll only have to update your code once, rather than each step as the open source code catches up (assuming it does).
      - chaostheory 18y ago
        good point

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briansmith 18y ago

I am excited because of the license. If he is successful then that means that other programmers respect and appreciate his work as a programmer to exchange money for it. That means that other programmers (me, in particular) have a chance of making money by selling software, potentially even to other programmers. It is amazing to me that so many programmers refuse to purchase any software, unless it comes bundled with a hardware purchase (Mac OS X, Windows). Hardware is worth hundreds or thousands of dollars but software is worth nothing?

DougBTX 18y ago
If you want to sell this sort of stuff, you should aim it at .Net programmers. As generalising as this may sound, they are used to paying money for software, so are more likely to buy yours. Not so in the open source world. Naturally, you'll want to buy yourself a copy of Visual Studio, probably buy a copy of ReSharper as well, to get yourself started.
ph0rque 18y ago
Whatever you pay for the licence, you don't get to modify the code (unless I'm misunderstanding what "no-derivative" means). That's what "de-excited" me about it.
- royty 18y ago
  For all non open-source projects it makes sense to have a no-derivative works license. You would be putting yourself out of business without it. Awesome script, I'll definitely be using it in some projects.
  - briansmith 18y ago
    I agree that it makes sense to prohibit the distribution of modified copies, but it is usually better to let people modify the software as long as they keep those modifications internal.