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Companies are running webapps on embedded devices now, but I don't buy the ease of hiring excuse. Web devs demand higher salaries than embedded developers and t

Companies are running webapps on embedded devices now, but I don't buy the ease of hiring excuse. Web devs demand higher salaries than embedded developers and they have more leverage in terms of where they can work (ie: they're flaky as pie crust). Embedded developers are also more likely to pass the hazing ritual known as the programming interview. Where's the upside to hiring web developers in that context?

FpUser 7y ago
"Companies are running webapps on embedded devices now" - sure my router and some of my own private hardware have web interfaces. It is however just a tiny bit of their functionality. The rest leaves happily as native code.
tracker1 7y ago
I think it's a mixed bag... a lot of developers think they know JavaScript or understand web applications. I've found that about 90% are not very good with it in practice. Often with job titles as Mid or Sr developers. Actually understanding more about JS and the browser, and actual application development, and how it fits are good places to start. I find that the browser model actually fits a redux-like master state machine better than MV* that a lot of experienced developers, but inexperienced web app developers tend to focus on. It just depends. I think there's room for most players, and IU do think WASM offers a LOT or will as runtimes and standard libraries shake out. I'm looking forward to seeing things develop more... IMHO there should be a focus to standardize interfaces for Canvas, WebGL, Audio and FS first. When you can run an application against canvas 2d or webgl with audio and sqlite, I think that's a large way there. Better input support (controllers as well as kb/mouse) is also pretty high. I know people are working on these things. Getting something that runs almost everywhere will be very nice and although there's some overlap with the intent of the JVM, WASM has more primitive options (for the good) and can support a greater range of sources to a single target set of interfaces.
- ScottFree 7y ago
  Did you mean to respond to my comment? I don't see the connection between your comment and the comment you responded to.
  - tracker1 7y ago
    I may have hit reply in the wrong one, apologies.
    - ScottFree 7y ago
      No worries! I was more confused than anything. :)

FpUser 7y ago

"Companies are running webapps on embedded devices now" - sure my router and some of my own private hardware have web interfaces. It is however just a tiny bit of their functionality. The rest leaves happily as native code.

tracker1 7y ago

I think it's a mixed bag... a lot of developers think they know JavaScript or understand web applications. I've found that about 90% are not very good with it in practice. Often with job titles as Mid or Sr developers. Actually understanding more about JS and the browser, and actual application development, and how it fits are good places to start. I find that the browser model actually fits a redux-like master state machine better than MV* that a lot of experienced developers, but inexperienced web app developers tend to focus on. It just depends. I think there's room for most players, and IU do think WASM offers a LOT or will as runtimes and standard libraries shake out. I'm looking forward to seeing things develop more... IMHO there should be a focus to standardize interfaces for Canvas, WebGL, Audio and FS first. When you can run an application against canvas 2d or webgl with audio and sqlite, I think that's a large way there. Better input support (controllers as well as kb/mouse) is also pretty high. I know people are working on these things. Getting something that runs almost everywhere will be very nice and although there's some overlap with the intent of the JVM, WASM has more primitive options (for the good) and can support a greater range of sources to a single target set of interfaces.

ScottFree 7y ago
Did you mean to respond to my comment? I don't see the connection between your comment and the comment you responded to.
- tracker1 7y ago
  I may have hit reply in the wrong one, apologies.
  - ScottFree 7y ago
    No worries! I was more confused than anything. :)