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The french have an overly large fondness of protesting. If they would save it for things that actually matter, the rest of the world wouldn't find it so laughab

by rb666 7y ago

The french have an overly large fondness of protesting. If they would save it for things that actually matter, the rest of the world wouldn't find it so laughable. The Yellow Vesters are even protesting AGAINST climate action (higher fuel taxes). I wouldn't call it terrorism, but it's certainly not helping anyone.

dudul 7y ago
People earning enough to live decently is not "worth it"? They are protesting against stupid climate actions that are mostly taken to give the impression the government is doing something, while in reality, it is just a way of getting a little more money out of tax payers. France barely emits 0.1% of world's CO2, how is it fair to tax fuel for cars (note that air traffic is left alone)? How is it fair when nothing is planned to help people live and work without their car? Edit: so far, all responses conveniently avoid the part where the government is taxing gas more and more, without making the investments to provide citizens with other means of transportation. Not all of France is Paris or Bordeaux or Lyon. Just like not all the US is NYC and SF. The majority of the population has no access to reliable public transportation to even consider not using their car.
- ceejayoz 7y ago
  > France barely emits 0.1% of world's CO2 Sure, because they have 0.09% of the world's population. > how is it fair to tax fuel for cars (note that air traffic is left alone)? Both should be taxed.
  - chimprich 7y ago
    You're both off. France has about 1% of the world's population and emits about 1% of the world's CO2. That's using some rounding, but it's reasonably close for discussion purposes.
  - wtdata 7y ago
    > Sure, because they have 0.09% of the world's population. Why does it matter their percentage of the world population? Are you defending that we should reward nations where people don't care about birth control and explode their demographics while arguing in favor of climate action?
- hollander 7y ago
  The Netherlands probably emits less. Does this mean we can dismiss all climate change projects because it won't mean anything on a global scale? Stupid and ignorant reasoning. What matters is the emission per person, and don't forget about emission in the past.
  - captainredbeard 7y ago
    FWIW, it isn’t naive to start addressing the biggest culprits first. Action for action’s sake is the hobgoblin of little minds (to butcher the famous quote).

by rb666 7y ago

dudul 7y ago

People earning enough to live decently is not "worth it"? They are protesting against stupid climate actions that are mostly taken to give the impression the government is doing something, while in reality, it is just a way of getting a little more money out of tax payers. France barely emits 0.1% of world's CO2, how is it fair to tax fuel for cars (note that air traffic is left alone)? How is it fair when nothing is planned to help people live and work without their car? Edit: so far, all responses conveniently avoid the part where the government is taxing gas more and more, without making the investments to provide citizens with other means of transportation. Not all of France is Paris or Bordeaux or Lyon. Just like not all the US is NYC and SF. The majority of the population has no access to reliable public transportation to even consider not using their car.

ceejayoz 7y ago
> France barely emits 0.1% of world's CO2 Sure, because they have 0.09% of the world's population. > how is it fair to tax fuel for cars (note that air traffic is left alone)? Both should be taxed.
- chimprich 7y ago
  You're both off. France has about 1% of the world's population and emits about 1% of the world's CO2. That's using some rounding, but it's reasonably close for discussion purposes.
- wtdata 7y ago
  > Sure, because they have 0.09% of the world's population. Why does it matter their percentage of the world population? Are you defending that we should reward nations where people don't care about birth control and explode their demographics while arguing in favor of climate action?
hollander 7y ago
The Netherlands probably emits less. Does this mean we can dismiss all climate change projects because it won't mean anything on a global scale? Stupid and ignorant reasoning. What matters is the emission per person, and don't forget about emission in the past.
- captainredbeard 7y ago
  FWIW, it isn’t naive to start addressing the biggest culprits first. Action for action’s sake is the hobgoblin of little minds (to butcher the famous quote).