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I can't say whether pirating media will lose or gain money for the studios/producers/etc. but I know one thing for sure. You are not entitled to that media and

I can't say whether pirating media will lose or gain money for the studios/producers/etc. but I know one thing for sure. You are not entitled to that media and if you don't like the methods in which these studios provide it then your only legal option is to not consume it. I'm over peoples use of the same tired excuses to justify piracy.

Bud 16y ago
I'd draw a distinction between trying to "justify" piracy, which I am not trying to do, and pointing out that the MPAA's anti-piracy arguments are ludicrous and that their proposed penalties are massive overkill, which is closer to my actual point. I have no disagreement with your point that nobody is "entitled" to pirate anything.
seabee 16y ago
You can say that about any law that people disagree with and/or break. But being tired of the argument is irrelevant to whether it has validity. If you don't want to participate in it, then perhaps you shouldn't participate in it.
- gmjosack 16y ago
  I've edited my post to more clearly reflect my opinion on the matter. I agree that people have the rights to disagree with and attempt to change laws. Though I haven't seen any arguments that are more than people feeling entitled to things. If someone uses their time and effort to create something it is up to them to distribute it as they see fit. I see piracy as nothing more than denying the owner of content the distribution method of their choice. Of course they may pick a method that isn't the most profitable, but that is their choice to make.
  - hxa7241 16y ago
    > I haven't seen any arguments that are more than people feeling entitled to things. * Economically: http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfi... * Morally: http://www.hxa.name/articles/content/ethical-case-against-ip_koepsell_2009.html http://www.hxa.name/articles/content/ethical-case-against-ip...

Bud 16y ago

I'd draw a distinction between trying to "justify" piracy, which I am not trying to do, and pointing out that the MPAA's anti-piracy arguments are ludicrous and that their proposed penalties are massive overkill, which is closer to my actual point. I have no disagreement with your point that nobody is "entitled" to pirate anything.

seabee 16y ago

You can say that about any law that people disagree with and/or break. But being tired of the argument is irrelevant to whether it has validity. If you don't want to participate in it, then perhaps you shouldn't participate in it.

gmjosack 16y ago
I've edited my post to more clearly reflect my opinion on the matter. I agree that people have the rights to disagree with and attempt to change laws. Though I haven't seen any arguments that are more than people feeling entitled to things. If someone uses their time and effort to create something it is up to them to distribute it as they see fit. I see piracy as nothing more than denying the owner of content the distribution method of their choice. Of course they may pick a method that isn't the most profitable, but that is their choice to make.
- hxa7241 16y ago
  > I haven't seen any arguments that are more than people feeling entitled to things. * Economically: http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfinal.htm http://levine.sscnet.ucla.edu/general/intellectual/againstfi... * Morally: http://www.hxa.name/articles/content/ethical-case-against-ip_koepsell_2009.html http://www.hxa.name/articles/content/ethical-case-against-ip...