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Hmm .. I had a friend recently who rented out a room on Airbnb and had guests that trashed it. Airbnb did pay damaged on his claim. He rented again and the gir

Hmm .. I had a friend recently who rented out a room on Airbnb and had guests that trashed it. Airbnb did pay damaged on his claim. He rented again and the girl asked if she could rent for a few more months. So they signed a standard city lease outside Airbnb and she hasn't left or paid. He's had to file eviction. That obviously isn't AirBNB's fault, but it's now 2 for 2 bad experiences that started with AirBNB. I wonder how many people install cameras in just the entrances/open areas more as a general liability thing. It probably goes against Airbnb policies, might be unethical or illegal in some jurisdictions, but considering the horror stories on both sides, I can understand why it happens.

rando444 7y ago
Not only was the second incident not related to AirBnB, but in both incidents you describe, having cameras would not have provided any value.
Someone1234 7y ago
> I wonder how many people install cameras in just the entrances/open areas more as a general liability thing. Can you clarify that? How does adding a camera near the entrance avoid liability? The examples given it wouldn't have helped, particularly if positioned where suggested. Plus in that scenario they should be overt cameras not covert. If for no other reason that there's no real concept of the entrance area being any less private than anywhere else in the abode.
- jobigoud 7y ago
  One scenario is if you specify your listing is for 2 persons and you rent to two guests, but then there is a party of 14 and you get back the place trashed. You can prove they lied.
zild3d 7y ago
> they signed a standard city lease outside Airbnb and she hasn't left or paid. He's had to file eviction. That obviously isn't AirBNB's fault, but it's now 2 for 2 bad experiences that started with AirBNB. That seems like a point for AirBnB to me. This happened by going outside of AirBnB and doing a normal lease, which has those risks. If a guest is somehow avoiding paying, that is AirBnB's problem to deal with

rando444 7y ago

Not only was the second incident not related to AirBnB, but in both incidents you describe, having cameras would not have provided any value.

Someone1234 7y ago

> I wonder how many people install cameras in just the entrances/open areas more as a general liability thing. Can you clarify that? How does adding a camera near the entrance avoid liability? The examples given it wouldn't have helped, particularly if positioned where suggested. Plus in that scenario they should be overt cameras not covert. If for no other reason that there's no real concept of the entrance area being any less private than anywhere else in the abode.

jobigoud 7y ago
One scenario is if you specify your listing is for 2 persons and you rent to two guests, but then there is a party of 14 and you get back the place trashed. You can prove they lied.

zild3d 7y ago

> they signed a standard city lease outside Airbnb and she hasn't left or paid. He's had to file eviction. That obviously isn't AirBNB's fault, but it's now 2 for 2 bad experiences that started with AirBNB. That seems like a point for AirBnB to me. This happened by going outside of AirBnB and doing a normal lease, which has those risks. If a guest is somehow avoiding paying, that is AirBnB's problem to deal with