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It’s the ultimate resume This is absolutely true, and the heart of the distinction. If you are happy with a regular job, then definitely go that route. Buildin

It’s the ultimate resume This is absolutely true, and the heart of the distinction. If you are happy with a regular job, then definitely go that route. Building weekend apps and such will keep you up-to-date and you'll be highly prized anywhere you go. However! For many of us, we simply cannot be happy in a regular job. For whatever reason, it rankles and chafes us. For lost souls like this, we need to find a way to monetize and build businesses in order to escape. I envy people who love their jobs. It seems like a simpler, more satisfying life. It's just never been that way for me.

JonnieCache 16y ago
>I envy people who love their jobs. It seems like a simpler, more satisfying life. It's just never been that way for me. We don't have some mental deficiency, absent in you, that stops us from hating our jobs. We have simply found jobs that we don't hate. Just like you. Just because you are self-employed, doesn't mean that you don't have a job. And if you don't have a controlling share in your company any more, you aren't any more self employed than me.
- rick888 16y ago
  It's not just this. I could have the best job in the world and because I'm not working for myself, I'm not going to be happy.
  - JonnieCache 16y ago
    >I could have the best job in the world and because I'm not working for myself, I'm not going to be happy. This statement is not internally consistent. If it is the "best job in the world," then by definition you would be happy to do it. It reminds me of people who say things like "I like my chips to be TOO salty!" No you don't. It also sounds like a self-imposed rule put in place for reasons of contrarianism, which would be deeply maladaptive and self-defeating, but as accusing people of contrarianism is becoming a bit of a meme round here, forget I said that. EDIT: I appear to have been contrarian over the issue of accusing people of contrarianism. If the internet implodes in the next hour, my bad.
    - flyosity 16y ago
      I worked for myself for 4 years (did consulting work, co-founded a startup) but, due to various reasons, decided to find a full-time job. The job I found is fantastic and I still work there. I love it, I love the people, I love my work. I build apps and do some consulting in my free time, and could easily leave and work for myself again, but I choose not to. I'm sure if I worked for a company I hated I would have left long ago. I do what makes me happy, and right now that involves having a full-time job and also working on other things I love to do on the side.
    - angelbob 16y ago
      If it is the "best job in the world," then by definition you would be happy to do it No. Somebody could, in a logically consistent way, be unhappy when doing absolutely any job.
      - JonnieCache 16y ago
        In this case all jobs are equally bad (and equally good,) therefore the words "best job," or even the words "good job" or "bad job" can have no meaningful interpretation.
        pingswept 16y ago
        No, it could be the case that someone is unhappy whenever they're working. For someone like that, the best job is one that pays a lot for a small amount of work. The lower the pay rate, the worse the job. I think that's a meaningful interpretation. In fact, I think this situation is pretty common among people in the world.
        JonnieCache 16y ago
        Touché. Although I think bringing higher reasoning into what was clearly a bit of pleasingly pointless formal logic pedantry is a bit unfair. Like taking an assault rifle to a waterfight.
    - alanthonyc 16y ago
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JonnieCache 16y ago

>I envy people who love their jobs. It seems like a simpler, more satisfying life. It's just never been that way for me. We don't have some mental deficiency, absent in you, that stops us from hating our jobs. We have simply found jobs that we don't hate. Just like you. Just because you are self-employed, doesn't mean that you don't have a job. And if you don't have a controlling share in your company any more, you aren't any more self employed than me.

rick888 16y ago
It's not just this. I could have the best job in the world and because I'm not working for myself, I'm not going to be happy.
- JonnieCache 16y ago
  >I could have the best job in the world and because I'm not working for myself, I'm not going to be happy. This statement is not internally consistent. If it is the "best job in the world," then by definition you would be happy to do it. It reminds me of people who say things like "I like my chips to be TOO salty!" No you don't. It also sounds like a self-imposed rule put in place for reasons of contrarianism, which would be deeply maladaptive and self-defeating, but as accusing people of contrarianism is becoming a bit of a meme round here, forget I said that. EDIT: I appear to have been contrarian over the issue of accusing people of contrarianism. If the internet implodes in the next hour, my bad.
  - flyosity 16y ago
    I worked for myself for 4 years (did consulting work, co-founded a startup) but, due to various reasons, decided to find a full-time job. The job I found is fantastic and I still work there. I love it, I love the people, I love my work. I build apps and do some consulting in my free time, and could easily leave and work for myself again, but I choose not to. I'm sure if I worked for a company I hated I would have left long ago. I do what makes me happy, and right now that involves having a full-time job and also working on other things I love to do on the side.
  - angelbob 16y ago
    If it is the "best job in the world," then by definition you would be happy to do it No. Somebody could, in a logically consistent way, be unhappy when doing absolutely any job.
    - JonnieCache 16y ago
      In this case all jobs are equally bad (and equally good,) therefore the words "best job," or even the words "good job" or "bad job" can have no meaningful interpretation.
      - pingswept 16y ago
        No, it could be the case that someone is unhappy whenever they're working. For someone like that, the best job is one that pays a lot for a small amount of work. The lower the pay rate, the worse the job. I think that's a meaningful interpretation. In fact, I think this situation is pretty common among people in the world.
        JonnieCache 16y ago
        Touché. Although I think bringing higher reasoning into what was clearly a bit of pleasingly pointless formal logic pedantry is a bit unfair. Like taking an assault rifle to a waterfight.
  - alanthonyc 16y ago
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