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I find it hard to believe that Google had no idea about this. In any case, I recognize that co-operation with the NSA is.. as they say.. non-optional.

lern_too_spel 7y ago
> I find it hard to believe that Google had no idea about this. Had no idea about what? There is no evidence that Google has cooperated with the NSA on anything except tracking down Chinese hackers. > I recognize that co-operation with the NSA is.. as they say.. non-optional. There is no evidence that they have been coerced into cooperating with the NSA on anything.
- la_barba 7y ago
  https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/google-statement-on-nsa-infiltration-of-links-between-data-centers/2013/10/30/75f3314a-41b3-11e3-a624-41d661b0bb78_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/googl... "We have long been concerned about the possibility of this kind of snooping, which is why we have continued to extend encryption across more and more Google services and links, especially the links in the slide. We do not provide any government, including the U.S. government, with access to our systems. We are outraged at the lengths to which the government seems to have gone to intercept data from our private fiber networks, and it underscores the need for urgent reform.” First they say that they were concerned about the possibility. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323949904578539541070739164 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323949904578539... "Google's request, made in a public letter written by its chief legal officer, David Drummond, comes after the government last Saturday publicly acknowledged that Internet content companies had received secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act requests about the activities of their users." Then they say that they handed over the data as legally required. The only point worth mentioning is the difference between 'access and 'unfettered access'. Google claims the latter never happened, only the former. >There is no evidence that they have been coerced into cooperating with the NSA on anything. Okay, you believe what you want to believe. This conversation doesn't seem tb be going anywhere. Goodbye, and have a nice day.

lern_too_spel 7y ago

> I find it hard to believe that Google had no idea about this. Had no idea about what? There is no evidence that Google has cooperated with the NSA on anything except tracking down Chinese hackers. > I recognize that co-operation with the NSA is.. as they say.. non-optional. There is no evidence that they have been coerced into cooperating with the NSA on anything.

la_barba 7y ago
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/google-statement-on-nsa-infiltration-of-links-between-data-centers/2013/10/30/75f3314a-41b3-11e3-a624-41d661b0bb78_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/googl... "We have long been concerned about the possibility of this kind of snooping, which is why we have continued to extend encryption across more and more Google services and links, especially the links in the slide. We do not provide any government, including the U.S. government, with access to our systems. We are outraged at the lengths to which the government seems to have gone to intercept data from our private fiber networks, and it underscores the need for urgent reform.” First they say that they were concerned about the possibility. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323949904578539541070739164 https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10001424127887323949904578539... "Google's request, made in a public letter written by its chief legal officer, David Drummond, comes after the government last Saturday publicly acknowledged that Internet content companies had received secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act requests about the activities of their users." Then they say that they handed over the data as legally required. The only point worth mentioning is the difference between 'access and 'unfettered access'. Google claims the latter never happened, only the former. >There is no evidence that they have been coerced into cooperating with the NSA on anything. Okay, you believe what you want to believe. This conversation doesn't seem tb be going anywhere. Goodbye, and have a nice day.